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Sefer Chafetz Chayim                                                                    םייח ץפח רפס
                                   Hilchot Esurei Rechilut                                                              תוליכר ירוסיא תוכלה
                                    Kelal Tet  -  Halachah 5                                                                י הכלה -  ט ללכ


                                      rd
                                            th
                Mishpat cited above (the 3  and 4  paragraphs, in the Hagahah), that the                                   םייח םימ ראב
                essential reason underlying this law is as I expressed it, and that being so,
                then that is also the law in our discussion here.                                          ימ ,ע"צ יל היה הז ןידב .'וכו תותשמ תוחפ )זכ(
                (RK9/5/5)-(19) ..themselves saw the incident: Meaning that they                            תוחפב וליפא ותומרל רוסא הלחתכלד ןויכ אמינ
                themselves  saw  the  “bad  event”  that  was  the  basis  for  permitting  one            ךירצ אליממ ז"כר ןמיסב מ"חב קספנש ומכ תותשמ
                partner to dissolve the partnership with “Plony.”  For example, in the case
                of the caretaker (Plony), they witnessed Plony stealing and on this basis                  ומכ אנידד אקיפס אוהד ןויכ אמליד וא ,ול דיגהל
                the law allows terminating his employment if the theft (the loss) was made                 הלחתכל וליפאד רשפאד מ"בב ש"ארהב אבומש
                known to him (through these witnesses) and similarly this same theme
                runs throughout the coming examples and the law is applied based on the                    ןידה ןמ רוסא אליממ כ"א .תותשמ תוחפב רתומ
                specifics of these cases.
                                                                                                           רשפאו .אשיב אנשיל ללכב אוהו ,וילע לגרלו ךליל
                And the way I expressed this “two people themselves saw the incident”                      ארמוחל  אכה  ליזו  ,אוה  אתיירואד  אקיפסד  ןויכ
                means to exclude those cases where they only heard about the incident
                from  others,  most  certainly  that  would  not  help  here  (hearing  is  never            .רופיס ןינעל ארמוחל אכה ליזו ,האנוא ןינעל
                a  basis  for  witness  testimony).  (Please  see  the  responsa  of  the  Shevut
                                                                th
                Yaakov (part 1) in section # 174.  Also see above in the 9  notation an                    לקשמבשו  הדמבש  רבד  לכ  יכ  .ינווג  לכב  )חכ(
                explanation if hearing information from others can be a basis for reporting                        .*רזוח האנוא ידכמ תוחפב וליפא
                an incident before a partnership was completely formed).  For here we
                require that testimony be admissible in Beit Din (and if that criterion is
                met) then it is permissible to report that incident to Shimon even outside
                of the Beit Din.  However, testimony conveyed in Beit Din by witnesses                                        :ה"הגה
                who only heard from others has no value.  Thus even (in an instance of
                two witnesses appearing in Beit Din) if one saw the event and the second                   ,ל"נה םיטרפה ורסחי אלש םינפב יתבתכש המד עדו *
                only heard about the event from others, that too would be inadmissible
                testimony.  Also, the two witnesses may not be related to each other, and if               ,האנש דצמ רבדה הז השעי אלש אוהו ,'גה טרפה הרואכל
                they are related their testimony is inadmissible even if each one witnessed                ש"ע ,ח"כקס א"כת 'יסב מ"חב ע"מסה ירבדל קר ךייש אל
                the events.  This is explicitly brought down as law in Choshen Mishpat,                    ליצמ אוהש המב רטפנ ןיא האנש דצמ אוהש אכיהד בתכש
                section #28 of the citation above.
                                                                                                           ןויכ בתכש ,ידכ ה"דב םש ז"טה ירבדל לבא ,ורבח תא ז"יע
                (RK9/5/6)-(20)..  their  only  motivation:  Meaning  that  this  is  not                   אל הרואכל ,ותנוכב הנימ אקפנ ןיא הזב הוצמ השוע אוהד
                comparable to what we explained above several times, that it is forbidden
                to speak Lashon Hara or gossip even if two speakers are conveying it                       הדומ ז"טה םג תקייד דכ תמאב םלוא .הזה טרפה ךייש
                (outside of Beit Din) and even if what they are conveying is truthful.  This
                is all true in a circumstance where their motivation is to denigrate Plony.
                But that is not the case here where their sole motivation is to achieve an
                outcome that is beneficial to Shimon.  And even though necessarily Plony              4	 Note:	One	may	“not	warn	the	customer”	because	the	halacha	might	be	as
                will be denigrated, the report conveyed to Shimon is immune from the                     the	Rosh	expressed	it,	that	even	from	the	outset	an	excess	charge	of	less
                laws of esurei Lashon Hara and Rechilut as we explained above at the                     than one-sixth above market value is allowable, and consequently making
                beginning of this Kelal.  The only other remaining detail is the issue that              that	disclosure	to	Shimon	would	be	Lashon	Hara.




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