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         Just a few months after the arrival of the College’s new Principal, Dr Eleanor Spencer-
         Regan, JCH Fellow Ms Margie Richardson AM (1968) joined her for a relaxed and
         revealing conversation, exploring the path that led her to travel thousands of miles to her
         new life here in Melbourne.
          Let me begin by welcoming you, Eleanor, to life in Australia   I was appointed Vice-Principal and Senior Tutor at St Chad’s
          and to JCH.                                        College in 2016, having been a postgraduate student there
                                                             since 2007, and later a Tutor. St Chad’s is the smallest college at
          Thank you! It’s a great privilege and a pleasure to be a part   Durham University, a former theological training college, and
          of the JCH community, and Melbourne is a fantastic place to   now one of only two independent colleges (affiliated rather
          live and work. We’re so excited to explore more of Victoria in   than university-owned). I had responsibility for the academic
          2023 and to plan some exciting family trips further afield, too.   progress and pastoral support of around 450 undergraduate
                                                             students, and for the development of the college as an
          Before finding out why you were tempted by this role at   interdisciplinary and inter-generational scholarly community.
          JCH, can you tell me a little about your background.   I enjoyed organising interdisciplinary lecture series, inter-
          Where do you come from in the UK?                  Common Room discussion events, career preparedness
                                                             workshops, and community volunteering events.
          I am originally from a small largely Welsh-speaking village
          called Bryncoch in the Vale of Neath in South Wales, where   And now I’d love to hear about your roles within the
          I lived until my family moved to another very rural village in   University and beyond… I understand you held the position
          Monmouthshire when I was eleven. I attended Haberdashers   of Digital Director for Durham University Centre for Poetry
          Monmouth School for Girls (or HMSG), a school literally on   and Poetics and also assisted with the university’s activities
          the Welsh border. Half of our playing field was in England, so   relating to Fair Access and Widening Participation. Please
          we used to joke that every match was an international fixture!   tell me about these and all the other roles.

          The Headmistress, Dr Brenda Despontin, was a staunch   I became the Digital Director of the Centre for Poetry and
          advocate for single sex education for young women. She   Poetics in 2013 and was responsible for the online presence
          firmly believed that that no academic subject, extra-curricular   of the Centre and the marketing of our frequent readings
          opportunity, or future career path should be off-limits because   and events. This role allowed me to spend time with many
          of our gender, and that there was nothing that we couldn’t   distinguished writers from all around the world including
          achieve if we were prepared to work hard enough. She taught   Simon Armitage, Lorna Goodison, Andrew Motion, Paul
          us to stand tall and to speak up, and never to apologise for our   Muldoon, Anne Stevenson, and the Australian poet, Les
          opinions, achievements, or ambitions. To this day, I feel very   Murray.
          lucky to have heard those powerful messages again and again
          throughout my formative years, and it’s strongly influenced my   I’ve been strongly committed to Widening Participation in
          own values as an educator.                         Higher Education since I was a postgraduate student. I will
                                                             forever be grateful for the research awards that enabled
          Can you tell me too about your extensive academic studies   me to undertake postgraduate study, and I want to ensure
          and research at Durham University and also, I understand,   that every able and hardworking young person has the
          at Harvard?                                        opportunity to fulfill their academic potential, regardless of
                                                             their socioeconomic background. I helped run St Chad’s
          I arrived at Durham University in 2004 to study for a BA in   College’s annual ‘Engaged and Inspired’ visits for pupils
          English Literature. I intended to stay only for three years but   from local primary schools, and designed the College’s AIM
          fell in love with the North East of England and ended up living   (‘Achievement. Inspiration. Motivation’) pilot programme.
          there, and studying and working at the university for the next   This programme saw the College partner with a local state
          eighteen years! After completing my BA I was awarded Arts   school to identify high-achieving Year 12 students who were
          and Humanities Research Council awards to complete my MA   then offered an eighteen month programme of academic
          and then my PhD, which looked at the work of the British-  and essential skills workshops and one-to-one sessions to
          American poet and Sylvia Plath biographer, Anne Stevenson.   encourage them to apply to Durham University. The AIM
                                                             programme was formally adopted by Durham University in
          Shortly before finishing my doctoral thesis in 2011, I   their most recent Access and Participation Plan as the model
          was awarded a Frank Knox Memorial Fellowship which   for all colleges and academic departments to use as the basis
          allowed me to take up a position as a Visiting Fellow in   for their schools’ engagement.
          the Department of English at Harvard University, working
          alongside some of the leading figures in my discipline. Since   I’m a firm believer that getting students from low SES
          then I’ve published in the field of modern and contemporary   (socioeconomic status) or non-traditional backgrounds into an
          British and American poetry, and taught extensively at   elite university is only the start of our commitment to them;
          undergraduate level.                               crucially, you then have to turn your attention to retaining
                                                             these students by ensuring that you’re providing them with a
          Since receiving your doctorate in 2012, you’ve worked   learning environment that feels safe and supportive, and that
          at Durham in various roles at Hatfield College, St Chad’s   you’re offering them a bespoke provision that recognises their
          College, and Grey College and also within the University   particular needs, rather than expecting them to suddenly fit
          itself. Perhaps you could tell me first, please, about your   the mould of your more traditional, higher SES students. Put
          roles at St Chad’s and what they involved?         simply, it’s not just about these students ‘arriving’ at university
                                                             but actually ‘thriving’ at university.
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