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... Ghulja, in 1997, that’s where you have this mild uprising which was followed by police suddenly patrolling the cemeteries. Ok, so young men were disappearing and suddenly the cemeteries were completely off limits. The reason why is because
the bodies were essentially being stripped before they went to the graves. The same time you have a comprehensive blood testing, for the first time, of political prisoners in particular, and this is done on behalf of six high-ranking Chinese cadres who arrive in Armuchee looking for organs. They get their organs eventually, and I talked to the doctor who did the testing of the prisoners... and he did the testing and they got their organs and then six more arrived.
So that was the beginning of the cycle of taking innocent people and killing them for their organs. But it was kept very quite, and the whole Xinjiang region is very separated from China so it was easy to control that. I don’t see any sign that it started to become policy for the rest of the country, and we really have a missing link at that point.
... in 2004 this doctor, whos name is Ko Wen-je, some of you may know him as the mayor of Taipei, he was a surgeon and he went to China, he was looking into organs for his clinic and everybody knew you go to China as there’s a very short waiting list, about two weeks, to get an organ anywhere else you wait 2 years.
So he goes and he looks into prices and he was
told they would give him the foreigner price, and bargained and bargained and said he wanted the Chinese price, they got to know each other and he finally expressed I’m not even sure these organs are any good as they are coming from drug addicts, they are coming from harden criminals, these people they drink, they smoke, they are a real problem. They finally said, well look, you don’t understand,
all these organs are coming from the Falung Gong.
These people, they don’t drink, they don’t smoke, they practice this very healthy form of Chi Gong and all your patients are going to be healthy like them. So don’t worry.
...Now just a word about numbers, here (show photo of five women) you’ve got a very good representation of Falung Gong refugees, these five women all
had been in labor camp, all five women had been tortured, one of them, I’m not saying which one, was sexually abused very severely, and the one on the
left was given blood tests that were clearly for organ tissue matching. There were looking at her very closely for her organs.
Of that, I pull a number of 65,000 (Falung Gong killed for their organs), which is much more complicated procedure than that, but it’s really a wartime estimate. We don’t really have a firm grasp on the numbers, that was 65,000 for 2000 to 2008, they have (Kilgour/Matas) is 41,500 between 2001 to 2005. We all find it very hard to make good calculations on how many people are actually dead, though I do believe it’s in the 100s of thousands at this point.
... I estimated (the number of Falung Gong incarcerations) half a million to a million at any given time. Now those numbers aren’t perfect. I’m sure there’s a bit of a revolving door since sentences can range from one weekend to 20 years. But we are going to start seeing the same sorts of things coming out of this. We’re seeing torture, even new methods of torture. I live here actually, I’m a British citizen, as well as an American Citizen, and I am somewhat ashamed in my new country for not grappling with this problem properly. Don’t run with the Vatican,
at least run with your allies. Run with America, run with the European Union. So I think that’s the very least that could be done, at least go through the measure of condemning this procedure.”
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