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50 minutes later we heard gunshots, and that was not machine gun fire, it was many rifles shot at same time. We can tell that.
So that is like the order, we rushed in. On the left side of the hill, on the slope of the hill we can see five, or six, or seven, I don’t exactly know how many, executed bodies. The shot is to the head from the back so the front of the head is blown away. And you can see all the executed prisoner’s heads are shaved, like mine, with prisoners clothes. Then there’s a police officer that said, “Go to the far right and that one is yours.” I said, “Why is it mine?” Anyway, so we went there and the two chief surgeons said, “Now you take this body into your van and extract the liver and the two kidneys.”
Now I understood what my duty was. And this man was wearing civilian clothes with long hair, and the shot is to his right chest here. As a surgeon I know that is a deliberate act, just make sure you will die, but not die immediately, so I have time to extract the organs. So when we put him in the van and the two chief surgeons guiding or observing, standing there, and they say, “Okay, you do.” So I take my scalpel and when I cut through his body he tried to struggle, but he was too weak to resist against my action. And I can see blood come out, it means the heart is still beating, so he was alive, he was actually alive.
At that moment my whole body turned into a
robot, just carrying out the duty for which I was programmed to do. Finally I removed the organs and the Chief Surgeon said, “Now you take your team back to the hospital, and remember, nothing happened today.” As a man born to that society I know what that means, since that day, none of us ever talked about it, because we tried to forget about it. And then the two chief surgeons took the organs and they left, so where the organs went, I don’t know...
Since I started campaigning with my friends here (Ethan Gutmann and Hon. David Kilgour), the most question that comes forward is how on earth can you do this, you’re doctors, you’re supposed to save people’s lives and you are killing it.
Question by Chief Justice: “If you had resisted and not done what your were told, would you have been killed?”
Answer: To answer that you have to understand the Chinese system. There is one employer, the state, everybody is working for the state. If you don’t obey the order, then you are out of a job, if you are out of job in that time China, it means you cannot get any job anymore. Your life is done.
Question by Chief Justice: “Where you made to repeat this terrible experience?”
Answer: No. ...I guess it was because I was the only one free on that day so I was chosen, and also in 1995 in Xinjiang the scale of the oppression it wasn’t that big, and the reason they choose the Uighur people
is there is nobody else on earth that are speaking for us, so nobody cared and that’s how they turned our homeland a laboratory, gigantic laboratory.
(Shows a photo of a sign painted on the floor of a Chines airport) This is a sign on the floor of one
of the airports in Xinjiang, and that’s the Chinese language (on one side) and the next one is an arabic- looking language, which is the Uighur language, so
a combination of these two languages and this sign can only been found in the Xinjiang airport, and what it says is, ‘Special passenger and human organ transplantation expressway,’ and this is at the airport. So imagine how big this traffic is to make an airport give you special pass-way to go freely. And that tells you the scale of this Chinese operation.”
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