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all the earth. For that we have the divine promise.’
              He ceased speaking suddenly, as though checking him-
            self. After listening attentively and respectfully Ivan went
            on, addressing the elder with perfect composure and as be-
           fore with ready cordiality:
              ‘The whole point of my article lies in the fact that during
           the first three centuries Christianity only existed on earth
           in the Church and was nothing but the Church. When the
           pagan Roman Empire desired to become Christian, it inevi-
           tably happened that, by becoming Christian, it included the
           Church but remained a pagan State in very many of its de-
           partments. In reality this was bound to happen. But Rome
            as a State retained too much of the pagan civilisation and
            culture, as, for example, in the very objects and fundamen-
           tal principles of the State. The Christian Church entering
           into the State could, of course, surrender no part of its fun-
            damental principles — the rock on which it stands — and
            could pursue no other aims than those which have been or-
            dained and revealed by God Himself, and among them that
            of drawing the whole world, and therefore the ancient pagan
           State itself, into the Church. In that way (that is, with a view
           to the future) it is not the Church that should seek a definite
           position in the State, like ‘every social organisation,’ or as
           ‘an organisation of men for religious purposes’ (as my oppo-
           nent calls the Church), but, on the contrary, every earthly
           State should be, in the end, completely transformed into
           the Church and should become nothing else but a Church,
           rejecting every purpose incongruous with the aims of the
           Church. All this will not degrade it in any way or take from

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