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Harun Yahya (Adnan Oktar)                   53


                 MURAD: Then answer these questions. With what evidence can we
            claim that we have a relation to a material world outside our perceptions?


                 AHMED: Give me a moment to think about that. If we look at what
            we've talked about so far, it seems there's no proof. But there are people
            who still claim that the concrete, absolute material objects, from which
            these images arise, exist outside us, aren't they?


                 MURAD: Yes of course, but Ahmed, can you make direct contact
            with what you call absolute matter?


                 AHMED: No, I now realize that I can't.


                 MURAD: Now, consider this. What qualities make that car a
            material object?


                 AHMED: Things like the metal used in its manufacture, the colors
            and then its size and weight.


                 MURAD: In that case, if we go back to what we were talking about
            earlier, if we take away from the image of the car our perceptions that
            have given us the feelings associated with that perception, such as color,
            hardness, depth, what's left? Or, let me put it this way. If we cut or
            temporarily interrupt the nerves going from our sense organs to our
            brains, what do we have?


                 AHMED: Nothing at all.


                 MURAD: Accordingly, you can never know learn about the matter
            that Allah has created and that exists outside. Here's a quote from
            Bertrand Russell that relates to what we've been talking about. He says,
            "As to the sense of touch when we press the table with our fingers, there
            is an electric disturbance on the electrons and protons of our fingertips,
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