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designer, told them what I wanted and then five weeks later they’d sent me what they’d done, I’d

    think that’s really impressive, but I wouldn’t have had the same feeling of accomplishment.

    BiTS:  It sounds to me as though there’s a good deal of therapy in this as well.

                                                                    HDC:  It’s all cathartic, isn’t it? Music
                                                                    itself is cathartic, I feel, whether it’s
                                                                    digging deep into emotions and memories

                                                                    or if it’s just letting loose and having fun
                                                                    or whatever, that’s to me what playing
                                                                    and listening to music is all about. The
                                                                    good and the bad, everything and it’s the
                                                                    reason I do it. I love writing music. I love
                                                                    playing guitar. I literally get up in the
                                                                    morning and that’s what I do and I’m very,

                                                                    very grateful to be able to do that and I
                                                                    don’t know what I’d do if I couldn’t. But
                                                                    thankfully, touch wood, that will never
                                                                    happen, but it is, it’s all cathartic,
                                                                    everything about it and from the response

                                                                    I get from certain things, from people that
                                                                    send emails and whatnot, they maybe
                                                                    don’t get what a song is actually about, but
                                                                    they relate to it in their own way. A lot of
                                                                    musicians get feedback from people saying
    that song really touched me, but it’s one of the best feelings when somebody reaches out and says
    this song got me through a dark time and it makes it all worthwhile, definitely.


    BiTS:  Clatch, I won’t take any more of your time. That’s absolutely wonderful. It seems an
    appropriate place to stop. Thank you so much for speaking to me. We must not leave it as long the
    next time. It’s far too long.

    HDC:  [Chuckling] Time flies, doesn’t it. It really does. I couldn’t believe it when you said it was
    2017, the last time. It doesn’t seem like five minutes ago.

    BiTS:  No, it doesn’t. I agree with you. Well, thanks very much indeed.  Okay, you look after

    yourself. Have a good day.

    HDC:  Same to you, Ian. Same to you.

    BiTS:  Bye.

    HDC:  Bye.
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