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good or not better than other people. But yeah, it was a lot of egos and a lot of talented

people, and it was very, what's the word, competitive.

BiTS: Yeah, yeah, I imagine it was. You came through that unscathed and started a career
as a musician, I suppose.

LE: Yeah.

BiTS: What was the first thing that you did when you became a, let's call it a pro, I suppose?

LE: Well, I had a bit of a kind of a rough ride after I left school because I did get taken on
by a record company. I made a record, and I got a record deal quite young. And then after
a couple of years, maybe it was two years, I got dropped. And then I kind of just ended up
having to find my way, of course I still stuck with music. But yeah, it wasn't easy, lots of
gigs, just trying to find anything I can and write songs and find other musicians to work

with and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, you know, and then the longer you stick at it, the
more work you get, and the easier things get, but it was quite hard at the time.

BiTS: You did some stuff for television certainly and also on the stage as well. Was that
because of your training or just to fill in time or something?

LE: Yeah, it definitely was because of my training, I think. When I got dropped from my
record label, I did do a few acting classes
and I got myself an agent. And then my
career took a bit of a detour because I
ended up landing on a kid's TV show
(BBC - Basil Brush) which at the time

was amazing because it was work, it was
money, it was really fun. I was working
at the BBC, and it was an amazing
experience. So yeah, it was a little detour
in my career, but one I must say that I

really, really enjoyed.

BiTS: I have to say that I never saw the
television programme, but I gather that
the character that you played was called
Madison Square-Gardens. Is that right?

LE: [Chuckles] Yeah, Madison Square-Gardens and she was a kooky American. So yeah,
I had lots of fun. Playing that character was just so much fun. Yeah.

BiTS: Well, let's hope it's a prognostication for the future because you may be able to go
and perform there at some stage [laughing].

LE: Yeah, that'd be great, wouldn't it [laughs]?

BiTS: Tell me about the records that you've done. I know you've got one coming out very

shortly and your debut album was released 22, I think it was, wasn't it?

LE: That's right, yeah.