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SKA:  My clients have anxieties,
                                                                                  conflicts, and deep personal concerns.
                                                                                   People see me for an in-depth
                                            cocoons, and to interact with
      Tales and Gossips of the New York     colorful self expression in the       understanding of their doubts,
      City Argentine Tango Scene.           world.                                emotional needs, and unconscious
                                                                                  motivations and conflicts, as well as for
      EP: What is your greatest              EP: What one thing are you never     recovering from trauma that lives
      achievement?                          without?                              inside of them, but which may go back
                                                                                  to very early life.  Some people have
      SKA: I would have to say that the     SKA: Of course, I am never            increasing insight over many years.
      combined evolution of my writing      without my phone, so that I can        Others need to learn how to open up
      about psychological development       read emails, and send emails to       and communicate, letting thoughts and
      and my founding of the Object         friends and colleagues regularly.     feelings come up from within.  Some
      Relations Institute for               However, I am generally carrying      are in ongoing emotional pain, which
      Psychotherapy and                     my notebook laptop computer           involves, rage, loss, and grief, but
      Psychoanalysis (ORI) serve            too, even on vacations.  I have it    which they may call depression.  Some
      together as my greatest               with me in restaurants, cafes, in     feel their unconscious emotional pain
      achievement.  Starting up an          Manhattan, Park Slope in              through conversions into visceral and
      institute for a school of             Brooklyn, and in Santa Fe, New        physical symptoms, such as gastric
      psychological thought has been        Mexico.  I have it for business       disorders or headaches.  They need to
      quite a challenge.  I continue to     related to my Private Practice,       be helped to understand what the ache
      invest so much time and energy in     such as monthly billing               inside is saying to them about the
      devising course curricula, in         summaries,  and for posting           emotional needs and child self within
      supervising students, conducting      events such as workshops and          them.  I have to be patient, tolerant,
      Board meetings, and in week-to-       conferences.  However, I also have    serving as a containing presence for
      week teaching courses on theory       it for my writing projects, books,    the anguish that might emerge from
      and clinical practice. I also plan    and articles I am working on, and     within.  I listen intently  and try to find
      conferences and workshops as          for general inspiration for creative  a way to relate to each person.  That
      well as participate.                  and professional writing.  I never    can be challenging.  It takes a lot of time
                                            know when the mood will strike        and energy.
      I wouldn’t change a minute of it      and I will want to jot down a
      though.  The psychological issues     thought, subject, future book title,  EP: One of your books is about
      related to the theory of how our      or for titles of conferences with     mourning.  Did you ever lose a loved
      internal worlds effect our creative   panels for my institute.  I have 6    one?
      capacities and our intimate           published books, and another 6
      relationships are so critical.        are being edited for publication,
       Through this understanding we        journal articles, and edited book
      accompany our therapy patients        chapters in restaurants and cafes.
      on journeys to find their unique      I’m a café writer.  Occasionally, I
      and individual voices in the world.    do some writing in my office on
      We are there when our patients        my office computer, but this is
      face losses and painful separations,  more recent.  I have always been a
      and to face the dreams and            café writer.  I feel simpatico with
      fantasies and motivations that        that European tradition.
      emerge into consciousness.  Our
      clinicians’ understanding allows us   EP:  What is the most challenging
      to help patients who have long        part of your work?
      suffered and felt like victims to
      emerge from their mental



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