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                                                                                                                       CARLA GULER
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      ‘Men are                                                                                                                to appear full of myself and say he must
                                                                                                                              have  been  a  fan.  He  may  have  just
                                                                                                                              been lost.”
                                                                                                                                On  this  occasion  Ryan  called  Violet’s
                                                                                                                              father, but she usually manages alone. Her
                                                                                                                              independent outlook is a reaction to her
      like dolphins,                                                                                                          Ontario. “My life was about getting a man.
                                                                                                                              upbringing in the industrial city of Sarnia,
                                                                                                                              My  dad  offered  me  money  when  I  was
                                                                                                                              young to stop biting my nails because he
                                                                                                                              said if I had long nails I would find a hus-
                                                                                                                              band. There are men in their sixties in my
                                                                                                                              family and nobody is putting pressure on
      best enjoyed                                                                                                            them to find wives. When I told my parents
                                                                                                                              I was pregnant they cried.” Tears of joy?
                                                                                                                              “No, sadness because I wasn’t married.”
                                                                                                                                She is not entirely single, though. She is
                                                                                                                              in a relationship with the American stand-
                                                                                                                              up Alex Edelman. They are too busy to be
      on holiday’                                                                                                             a conventional couple, but it works. “I’ve
                                                                                                                              had  relationships  where  I’ve  been  pun-
                                                                                                                              ished  for  my  success,  there  has  been
                                                                                                                              jealousy and resentment. It took until I
                                                                                                                              was into my thirties to find someone that
                                                                                                                              was  truly  happy  about  my  accomplish-
                                                                                                                              ments  and  didn’t  get  enraged  when  I
      Katherine Ryan tells Bruce Dessau                                                                                       achieved things professionally.”
                                                                                                                                Maybe men are finally evolving. One of
      about stand-up success, being a single                                                                                  her successes is Roast Battle for Comedy
      mum — and the lure of sandwiches                                                                                        Central  UK,  where  stand-ups  verbally
                                                                                                                              joust in no-holds-barred joke-offs. Ryan
                                                                                                                              and Jonathan Ross are the judges. “When
              atherine Ryan is sitting on the  all welcome Katherine                                                          Jonathan joined for the second series he
              floor in her dressing room at the  Ryan denies that she is                                                      approached me and said, ‘How much are
              Garrick  Theatre  in  her  Giv-  anti-men: “I’ve done                                                           you getting paid for this, because I won’t do
              enchy hoodie and sweat pants.  wonderful things for men”                                                        it if I’m earning more than you.’ That’s the
      KShe  seems  so  relaxed  you                                                                                           first time a man has ever said this. He took
      wouldn’t think she is due to perform her hit                                                                            the initiative and I really appreciate it.”
      show Glitter Room in little over an hour.                                                                                 The problem, she thinks, is at the grass-
        “All I’ve got to do is put on my wig and                                                                              roots  level  where  everyone  is  trying  to
      my dress,” she says, as if stand-up comedy                                                                              make  their  name.  She  recalls  an  open-
      is the easiest job in the world. It isn’t. The                                                                          mike  night  where  there  were  “24  white
      smart, bright-eyed 35-year-old just makes                                                                               men  trying  to  be  edgy”  with  crude,
      it look easy. Seventy minutes later she is                                                                              misogynist jokes. Established comics are
                                                                                                                              more  supportive.  Romesh  Ranganathan
                                                                                                                              and Nish Kumar are friends, as is Geoff
                                                                                                                              Norcott, who is that rarity a Tory-voting
                                                                                                                              comic. “We text most nights.” Does she
                                                                                                                              agree  with  his  politics?  “No,  but  I’m
                                                             delivering another storming set of sassy,  comfortable. I don’t really know why.” Per-  keen to learn.”
                                                             scalpel-sharp  stories  about  tackling  haps the tension comes from her being so  Ryan certainly has an impressive plate-
                                                             teenage  bullies,  single  motherhood,  the  openly  happy  being  a  single  mother  of  spinning work ethic. She has also filmed a
                                                             Kardashians and much more. She is not  nine-year-old Violet. “There are men who  Netflix  panel  show,  The  Fix,  due  to  be
                                                             bald, incidentally, the wig just gives her big  feel  very  threatened  by  me  saying  that  screened soon. And she has to think about
                                                             hair to go with her big success.  there is a different shape to a family that  childcare.  Violet’s  father  —  she  doesn’t
                                                              Ryan  has  come  a  long  way  since  she  doesn’t need them. Some men don’t like  name him, but says they have an amicable
                                                             moved to the UK from Canada a decade  feeling superfluous.”      set-up — has her for some weekends, but
                                                             ago. Although not far in some ways. She  Shortly before the interview Ryan had  even with that help and babysitters, how
                                                             appreciates  her  month-long  run  at  the  posted a playful question on Instagram,  does Ryan fit in those tours and television
                                                             Garrick because one of her first jobs here  asking for suggestions to make men feel  appearances? She suggests that stand-up
                                                             was  in  an  office  in  nearby  Holborn  in  more  comfortable  at  her  shows.  She  is the perfect career for a single mother.
                                                             central London, selling subscriptions to a  reads out some answers: “Someone said,  “Other working parents drop their kids
                                                             fashion  directory.  “I  feel  privileged  that  ‘Do the show as their mother.’ Another  at 7am, whereas I do the school run. And
                                                             people come and see me because it wasn’t  said I should offer sandwiches. I might do  with  this  show  we  can  hang  around
                                                             long  ago  that  I  was  working  down  the  that . . .”         together and I leave when she is getting
                                                             road.”                                                           ready for bed.”
                                                              Meet a true trailblazer at the top of her  ‘I wanted someone      Her parenting seems successful. “Violet
                                                             game. She hosted the all-female edition of                       never swears. She used the word ‘malar-
                                                             8 Out of 10 Cats, did Countdown this year who didn’t get         key’  recently  and  apologised.”  Off-duty
                                                             and  was  only  the  second  British-based  enraged when I       Ryan reins in the gags. “Violet is the funny
                                                             comedian  (after  Jimmy  Carr)  to  have  a                      one at home. I try not to be funny at the
                                                             Netflix original comedy special released  achieved things’       school gates. I don’t go to Violet’s recorder
                                                             globally when In Trouble came out in 2017.                       concerts  and  try  to  steal  the  spotlight.”
                                                             Glitter  Room  is  also  being  filmed  for  There  were  also,  however,  sexually  There is a pause before she can’t resist a
                                                             Netflix.                        aggressive responses. How does she deal  punchline. “Actually, I try not to go to her
                                                              Ryan’s Garrick audience transcends age  with that? “I look at their profiles. If they  recorder concerts at all.”
                                                             and gender, but there are not as many men  are clinically obsessive I mute them.” Does  She would like to have more children al-
                                                             as you might usually see at comedy gigs.  she worry about obsessive fans? “I’ve not  though she has enough on her hands with
                                                             Could this be because she is so assertive  had anyone try to hurt me.” She is drily  work, Violet, a cat called Sara Pascoe and
                                                             that men are intimidated? On stage she  philosophical about fame’s darker under-  three dogs. “Something tells me I will. I like
                                                             witheringly recalls the decorator who was  belly. “Some people enjoy what you do.  being a mum.” Has she discussed it with
                                                             dismissive of her suggestions and wanted  The flipside is that some people threaten to  Edelman? “I would definitely not trap him
                                                             to speak to the “decision-maker”. She quips  kill you.”          if that’s your question. If I figure it out I’ll
                                                             that “men are like dolphins, best enjoyed  Perhaps she was thinking about a terri-  let  you  know.”  Would  she  go  down  the
                                                             on holiday”.                    fying  incident  that  she  sometimes  turkey baster route? “I wouldn’t rule it out.
                                                              She is not anti-men. “Not at all. I’ve done  mentions on stage. A man recently tried to  But at the moment I’m just living day-to-
                                                             wonderful things for men. I’ve let them  enter her Crouch End flat at night, putting  day trying not to get another dog.”
                                                             have sex with me, I’ve had their children. I  his hands through the letterbox. It sounds  Katherine Ryan: Glitter Room is at the
                                                             do lots of things to make men comfortable,  chilling, but she now sees the funny side.  Garrick Theatre, London WC2
                                                             but  this  show  does  not  make  all  men  “When the police spoke to me I didn’t want  (0330 3334811), to October 20
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