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A14   PEOPLE & ARTS
                         Friday 1 July 2022
             Sonequa Martin-Green, Kate Mulgrew share 'Star Trek' stories



            By HILARY FOX                                                                                                       heart-to-heart  exchanges
            Associated Press                                                                                                    that  I've  had  with  people
            LONDON (AP) — After light                                                                                           already,  it's  mind  blowing.
            years  in  space,  actors                                                                                           "I decided to go into STEM
            Sonequa Martin-Green and                                                                                            because of you." Or even if
            Kate Mulgrew are meeting                                                                                            somebody  just  decides  to
            up  on  Earth  to  compare                                                                                          speak up for themselves in
            "Star Trek" stories.                                                                                                one exchange — if it's posi-
            Martin-Green,  as  Michael                                                                                          tive, then how grateful am I
            Burnham, is at the helm of                                                                                          to be a part of it?
            "Star Trek: Discovery" which                                                                                        MULGREW:  Because  these
            is headed for a fifth season.                                                                                       are not conventional aspi-
            While Mulgrew was the first                                                                                         rations.  These  are  women
            woman to lead a series on                                                                                           who  are  not  aspiring  to
            '90s  "Star  Trek:  Voyager"                                                                                        be  beautiful,  sexy,  attrac-
            and  has  returned  to  her                                                                                         tive to men. These are not
            character,  Kathryn  Jane-                                                                                          Kardashian  women.  These
            way, albeit as a hologram,                                                                                          are women who are trying
            in the new animated series                                                                                          to inspire people to under-
            "Star  Trek:  Prodigy."  Both                                                                                       stand  things  like  the  prime
            shows are on Paramount+.                                                                                            directive.  Like  hope.  Like
            In  a  joint  interview,  both                                                                                      science.  Everything  that's
            captains  talk  about  inspir-                                                                                      elevated, noble and rich.
            ing  women  and  why  hair                                                                                          MARTIN-GREEN:  Sacrificing
            styles  can  be  important  in                                                                                      for the future...
            deep  space.  Responses                                                                                             MULGREW: ...of the species.
            have been edited for brev-                                                                                          It's  pretty,  pretty  evolved.
            ity and clarity.                                                                                                    It's very, very elevated.
            AP: Is there a support group                                                                                        AP: I did watch a video that
            or WhatsApp group for "Star                                                                                         kept  track  of  your  many
            Trek" captains?                                                                                                     hairstyles.
            MARTIN-GREEN:  I  should                                                                                            MULGREW:      Outrageous.
            start  one  because  I'm  go-                                                                                       Lost  in  space  in  the  Delta
            ing  to  get  (Mulgrew's)                                                                                           quadrant, 75,000 light years
            number  for  sure.  We've                                                                                           from home, a complement
            seen each other a couple                                                                                            of  165  crew.  And  all  she
            of  times  here  lately  doing                                                                                      can do is change her hair-
            press and everything. And I                                                                                         do  every  ten  days.  Ridicu-
            will be calling her up.                                                                                             lous. They finally let it be.
            MULGREW:      I   look   at                                                                                         AP:  Michael's  braids  got
            Sonequa  and  I  can  see                                                                                           massive positive response.
            very clearly why she would                                                                                          MARTIN-GREEN:  It  meant
            be a very compelling cap-                                                                                           a  lot,  because  from  the
            tain. I don't think I need to                                                                                       very beginning, I was ada-
            support that. That simply is.                                                                                       mant  about  having  natu-
            But  do  you  mean  do  we                                                                                          ral  hair,  because  that's  a
            talk  about  what  it  is  to  be                                                                                   socio-political   statement
            female captains?                                                                                                    in itself. And then going to
            MARTIN-GREEN:        We've                                                                                          the  braids.  I  love  that  Af-
            started.                     Kate Mulgrew, left, and Sonequa Martin-Green pose for photographers upon arrival at the UK   rocentric  expression  and  I
            MULGREW: We have and, of     launch of the streaming site Paramount +, in London, Monday, June 20, 2022.            love being able to see it in
            course, we go to the wom-                                                                          Associated Press  that world and in that story.
            an  place.  We  go  to  the                                                                                         I think it has an impact be-
            fact that we're raising small  And   Janeway    couldn't  first  female  captain,  those  MULGREW: Somebody sent  cause, yet again, I want to
            children  while  we're  work-  stand it either. Baloney.  women in STEM — a lot of  me an image of my grand-        contribute  to  that  kind  of
            ing  hard.  And  women  like  AP:  Sonequa,  your  catch-  them changed their minds,  daughter watching me on  progression  and  inclusivity,
            to share that conflict. We're  phrase is "Let's fly." Are you  reformed,  reshaped  their  "Prodigy,"  and  here  was  because we no longer are
            torn. You have two children  happy with that?             opinions and their goals as  her face (wide-eyed). And  bound  by  the  European
            for whom you would easily  MARTIN-GREEN:  Oh,  I'm  so  a  result  of  Captain  Jane-  I thought, she has no idea  standard  of  beauty.  You
            die. And then you have this  happy with that. It's poetic.  way. And because I saw it  it's me.                     get to be who you authen-
            career  about  which  you  MULGREW:  That's  wonder-      directly,  I  was  deeply  and  AP:  Sonequa,  you  are  a  tically are and be accept-
            are in expressively passion-  ful. Oh, I'm enviable.      directly affected by it. And  woman of color running her  ed.
            ate. So it's a tough one to  AP:  How  do  fans  respond  over  the  years  it's  done  own ship — how do people  MULGREW: Authentic. That's
            reconcile.                   to  you?  These  characters  nothing  but  evolve.  Very,  react?                      the key.
            AP: Do you think your cap-   inspire a lot of women, es-  very  few  actresses  have  MARTIN-GREEN:      The   re-  MARTIN-GREEN:  And  I  love
            tains would get on?          pecially  to  go  into  STEM  that. I've had it for over 25  sponse  that  I've  gotten  what you said about us not
            MULGREW:  We  would  get  subjects.                       years.  It's  extraordinary  to  has  been  overwhelming-  catering to the male gaze.
            on   because     (Burham's)  MULGREW:  I've  had  prob-   me.                          ly,  overwhelmingly  uplift-  MULGREW:    Well,   that's
            real,  she's  vulnerable  and  ably  the  single  greatest  AP:  And  now  you've  got  ing.  There  were  bits  here  what  "Star  Trek"  is.  If  the
            she's  honest.  No  holds  response  from  my  fan  a  younger  generation  as  and  there  that  I  was  not  captain of "Star Trek" is go-
            barred.  We  would  get  on.  base  than  any  other  ac-  well,  with  "Star  Trek:  Prodi-  surprised  by.  But  the  sto-  ing... (mimes doing hair in a
            It's  artifice  I  can't  stand.  tress  because  it  I  was  the  gy?"                ries  that  I  have  heard,  the  mirror) It's absurd.q
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