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                      Tuesday 26 July 2022
            Q&A: Jordan Peele on the dreams and nightmares of ‘Nope’



            By JAKE COYLE                                                                                                       Presence with a capital P. I
            AP Film Writer                                                                                                      can't describe it, but I knew
            NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  There's                                                                                         if  I  could  bottle  that  and
            little in contemporary mov-                                                                                         put  it  into  a  horror  movie,
            ies  quite  like  the  arrival  of                                                                                  it  might  change  the  way
            a  new  Jordan  Peele  film.                                                                                        people look at the sky.
            They tend to descend omi-                                                                                           AP:  When  the  U.S.  govern-
            nously  and  mysteriously,  a                                                                                       ment  declassified  video
            little  like  an  unknown  ob-                                                                                      of  Navy  pilots  encounter-
            ject from above that casts                                                                                          ing  unexplained  aircraft
            an  expanding,  darkening                                                                                           —  something  your  movie
            shadow the closer it comes.                                                                                         references — how did you
            "Nope," the writer-director's                                                                                       react?  Were  you  affected
            third film, is nearly here. Af-                                                                                     by those images?
            ter  Peele's  singular  debut,                                                                                      Peele: I was. It made it very
            "Get  Out,"  about  the  pos-                                                                                       real, very much in the mo-
            session of Black bodies and                                                                                         ment.  It's  one  of  the  rea-
            the  fallacy  of  post-racial                                                                                       sons, I guess, I can proudly
            America,  and  his  follow-                                                                                         say  this  movie  is  based
            up,  "Us,"  a  monstrous  tale                                                                                      on  a  true  story.  But  what
            of  doppelgangers  and  so-                                                                                         was  most  nerve-wracking
            cietal  mirrors,  the  closely-                                                                                     or  scary  to  me  about  the
            kept-under-wraps    "Nope"                                                                                          whole  thing  is  that  you'd
            brings  a  new  set  of  hor-                                                                                       like to think that when ac-
            rors  and  unsettling  meta-                                                                                        tual  video  proof  of  UFOs
            phors. For Peele, who writes                                                                                        comes  out  that  something
            through    shooting    and                                                                                          would  change  in  our  life-
            considers  the  conversa-                                                                                           style, not it's really business
            tion generated by a movie    This image released by Universal Pictures shows actor Daniel Kaluuya, left, and writer/director   as usual. It just proves that
            one of its main ingredients,   Jordan Peele on the set of "Nope."                                                   there is a desensitization to
            "Nope" is far from a finished                                                                      Associated Press  spectacle.  We're  addict-
            project.                                                                                                            ed  and  we're  in  over  our
            "Movie's  done,"  Peele  said  Universal   Studios   Holly-  AP.  The  Eadweard  Muy-  Peele: Yes. I've been trying  heads  with  this  addiction.
            in  a  recent  interview.  "I'm  wood. Peele's dark world is  bridge  loop  looms  over  to  put  that  together.  It's  a  We  have  proof  of  UFOs  or
            still writing it."           increasingly ours.           "Nope';  your  characters  sequel,  it's  an  antidote,  it's  UAPs  (unidentified  aerial
            It's  Peele's  most  ambitious  For Peele, as he said speak-  are said to be descendants  a reboot, it's an answer to  phenomena), but the inter-
            film yet, a flying saucer hor-  ing recently by Zoom from  from  its  unnamed  rider.  To  the  way  films  began  and  est  with  the  major  public
            ror  that  digs  into  the  na-  Los  Angeles,  "Nope"  is  you, what does it mean that  have continued.            goes so far. It's very interest-
            ture  of  spectacle  and  the  about  reaching  for  a  kind  the  erasure  of  Black  men  AP: Why do you think in writ-  ing.
            desire to document it — a  of  Hollywood  movie  once  was there at the foundation  ing  "Nope"  your  thoughts  AP:  How  focused  are  you
            multithreaded  theme  that  unattainable. He pointedly  of cinema?                     went back to the beginning  on  crafting  your  own  films
            encompasses      Hollywood  opens  the  film  with  Ead-  Peele: It's a sad part of this  of film?                  from the bottom up?
            history  and  "Nope,"  itself.  weard  Muybridge's  1887  industry.  It  was  something  Peele: Part of the the world  Peele:  Nothing  is  more  re-
            Daniel  Kaluuya  and  Keke  photographic  study  show-    I  was  learning  at  a  good  of "Nope" is flirting with real  warding than being able to
            Palmer  star  as  a  brother  ing a Black rider on a horse.  point for myself in this story.  Hollywood  and  the  Hol-  lead the charge on some-
            and sister in a family horse  It was one of the first mov-  I felt like five, 10 years ago,  lywood  that  takes  place  thing  that  comes  from
            wrangling  business  for  film  ing  pictures.  But  while  the  I  would  never  have  been  in  my  liminal  dreams  and  somewhere  deep,  and  to
            productions.  Their  Califor-  name  of  the  horse  and  its  able  to  sell  this  movie  to  nightmares.  In  real  life,  of  get the support of a team
            nia  ranch  is  visited  by  a  owner  was  recorded,  the  anyone.  So  I'm  juxtapos-  the  prominent  Hollywood  on  something  like  that.  I
            strange and violent force in  name of the Black jockey is  ing  this  origin  story  of  film  horse  trainers,  there's  not  feel like if I were working off
            the  clouds  that  they  strive  unknown.                 at the same time I'm trying  an  African  American  one  of someone else's property,
            to capture on film.          "I feel like this is the first mo-  to make a story that's scary  I'm  representing.  The  Hay-  I  would  owe  something  to
            "Nope," which opens in the-  ment  that  anyone  would  and  joyous  and  adventur-    woods  are  a  very  made-   someone else. Besides that
            aters  Friday,  also  extends  ever  allow  me  or  anyone  ous  and  everything  I  love  up  family  and  notion.  It  core piece of inspiration, it
            Peele's  own  self-conjured  to make this movie. And so  about  film.  It  just  felt  very  was fun to weave the Hol-  just doesn't seem as fun to
            mythology.  His  movies  are  I  had  to  take  advantage.  fitting for that starting point  lywood  fiction  with  reality  me.
            very  loosely  tethered  to-  I had to go as big as pos-  to  be  acknowledged  and  and try and make a seam-       AP:  After  "Get  Out,"  you
            gether  (some  fictional  es-  sible," said Peele. "I was like:  have ancestral implications  less  immersion  into  what's  suggested  you  would  em-
            tablishments   appear    in  'Let's go.'"                 for our main characters.     real and what's not.         bark  on  a  series  of  genre
            several of them), and now  Responses  have  been  ed-     AP:  Do  you  think  of  your  AP: Since seeing your film,  films  that  grapple  with  big
            even encompass a "Nope"  ited for brevity and clarity.    movie  as  like  an  antidote  clouds  have  taken  on  a  societal  issues.  Three  films
            theme  park  attraction  at  ___                          to that film?                sinister appearance to me.  in,  where  are  you  are  in
                                                                                                   What led you to build your  that project?
                                                   LIKE US ON                                      film  around  that  image  of  Peele:  I  feel  like  I'm  off  to
                                                                                                   an unmoving cloud?
                                                                                                                                the races. I just don't know
                                                                                                   Peele:  The  beauty  of  the  if  I  could  limit  how  many
                                                                                                   sky is enthralling — the first  films I have that are me. I'm
                                                                                                   movies,  in  a  way.  Every  starting to lose sight of what
                                                                                                   now  and  then  you'll  see  a  I would be doing if I wasn't
                                                                                                   cloud  that  sits  alone  and  doing  movies  like  this.  So  I
                                      Facebook.com/arubatoday/                                     is too low, and it gives me  would  say  the  project  has
                                                                                                   this vertigo and this sense of  extended.q
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