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A30    PEOPLE & ARTS
              Wednesday 4 december 2019
                                                                      Paul Simon and Peter Singer


                                                                      discuss 'The Life You Can Save.'



                                                                      By HILLEL ITALIE             such  as  Nelson  Mandela  great works that have been
                                                                      AP National Writer           and  the  Dalai  Lama.  He  achieved.  And  I'm  glad
                                                                      NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  Paul  Si-  and Singer are both world  that  they're  preserved,"
                                                                      mon,  world  famous  singer-  citizens  who  might  share  Singer answers. "I also think
                                                                      songwriter,  isn't  only  in-  stories  about  the  Amazon  that in a world has so such
                                                                      spired by fellow musicians.  forest or East Timor, or Sing-  present  human  need,  that
                                                                      Simon is an admirer of the  er's native Australia, where  that  should  be  the  prior-
                                                                      author-philosopher    Peter  he saw Simon perform de-     ity.  ...  When  the  Met  buys
            This Nov. 8, 2019 photo shows singer-songwriter, Paul Simon, left,   Singer,  the  longtime  Princ-  cades earlier.  a painting, it's not as if that
            and author-philosopher Peter Singer during an interview in New   eton  University  professor  They  met  in  2005,  when  painting would have been
            York to promote the new edition of Singer's book “The Life You   whose  "The  Life  You  Can  Singer was among the hon-  left out to rot had they not
            Can Save."                                                Save" has been a guide for  orees  at  a  Time  magazine  bought it."
                                                     Associated Press  Simon  and  others  looking  gala  for  the  world's  "100  Simon  stopped  touring  in
                                                                      for ways to donate money.    most influential people."    2018  and  laments  —  with-
                                                                      Singer  has  completed  a  "I went up to Peter," Simon  out naming names — that
                                                                      new  edition  of  the  book,  recalls.  "I  was  familiar  with  some  of  his  wealthy  con-
                                                                      which comes out this week,  Peter,  with  his  work,  and  temporaries  continue  to
                                                                      and  Simon  is  helping  with  I  introduced  myself  and  make  substantial  amounts
                                                                      the  promotion.  He  read  a  then we said, 'Let's get to-  of  money  from  concerts
                                                                      chapter  for  the  audio  edi-  gether.'"                 instead  of  using  it  to  help
                                                                      tion  and  sat  with  Singer  "You  and  (Simon's  wife)  others.
                                                                      recently  for  an  Associated  Edie (Brickell) came to din-  He  still  performs  live,  but
                                                                      Press  interview.  "I'm  very  ner," Singer adds. "Then we  donates  profits  to  a  vari-
                                                                      comfortable  with  Peter's  met when you were in Aus-     ety  of  causes,  whether  for
                                                                      way of thinking," Simon ex-  tralia."                     treating fistula, a condition
                                                                      plains.                      Simon  and  Singer  have  a  afflicting millions of African
                                                                      In "The Life You Can Save,"  warm,  sometimes  teasing  women that Simon learned
                                                                      first published in 2009, Sing-  rapport ("I  can't say  it  was  about through Singer, or for
                                                                      er is both high-minded and  a real page turner," Simon  the environment, which he
                                                                      pragmatic.  He  considers  says  jokingly  about  "The  considers  the  most  urgent
                                                                      the  obligations  we  have  Life You Can Save"), strong  problem.
                                                                      to each other and how to  enough  that  they  can  dif-   Simon  had  been  giving,
                                                                      expand our compassion for  fer  over  what  Simon  calls  and  raising,  money  well
                                                                      those  we  know  to  people  Singer's  "hierarchal  priori-  before  he  knew  of  Singer.
                                                                      we've never met.             ties."  Singer  believes  that,  In  the  early  1970s,  he  was
                                                                      In  the  book  and  on  www.  with so many urgent prob-   among  the  performers  at
                                                                      thelifeyoucansave.org,  he  lems  in  the  world,  grand  a  concert  for  Democratic
                                                                      lists  specific  organizations,  cultural projects such as art  presidential   candidate
                                                                      from  Oxfam  to  Village  En-  galleries and opera houses  George   McGovern.     He
                                                                      terprise, that have been in-  should hold far lower stand-  sang  on  the  all-star  "We
                                                                      dependently  audited  and  ing for would-be donors.       Are  the  World"  recording
                                                                      recommended.  He  also  "Once we had a long walk  from 1985 and a few years
                                                                      probes the morality of giv-  along  the  beach  in  Mel-  later helped found the Chil-
                                                                      ing, how much is expected  bourne,"  Simon  explains,  dren's Health Fund.
                                                                      of each of us, and address-  "and  I  said,  'So  if  we  went  But he is also wary of events
                                                                      es criticism on whether phi-  down  the  list  of  what  you  that fail to help the intend-
                                                                      lanthropy is simply a way for  would  say  is  the  most  im-  ed  people.  Simon  found
                                                                      the rich to improve their im-  portant  places  to  make  that  compassion  wasn't
                                                                      ages and maintain power.     your  contribution,  in  that  enough; he had to investi-
                                                                      "If you ask me, 'Should there  way of thinking you would  gate  first  hand  where  the
                                                                      be an economic system in  say that a donation to the  money  went.  He  remem-
                                                                      which  nobody  becomes  Metropolitan  Museum  of  bers  being  in  Biloxi,  Missis-
                                                                      a  billionaire,'  I  would  say  Art  would  really  be  at  the  sippi,  in  2005,  after  Hurri-
                                                                      yes," Singer says. "But if you  bottom of the list."      cane Katrina. He was there
                                                                      say, 'In the world as it is, is  "Close to it, anyway," Singer  with a mobile medical unit,
                                                                      it immoral for people to be  says.                        looking   for   community
                                                                      a  billionaire,'  I  would  have  "I said, 'I disagree with that,'"  leaders  who  could  help
                                                                      to say no, because I know  Simon  recalls.  "I  think  that  connect them with people
                                                                      people  who  are  giving  while  we  have  an  obliga-    in need of help.
                                                                      away — like Warren Buffett  tion  to  raise  the  lowest  up  "You  really  have  to  know
                                                                      —  most  (of  their  money).  I  to  a  point  where  they  are  what  and  to  whom  you're
                                                                      think  that's  perfectly  rea-  being  treated  humanely,  giving this money," he says.
                                                                      sonable."                    we  also  have  an  obliga-  "All these years I had been
                                                                      Simon,  78,  and  Singer,  73,  tion to honor the creativity  doing  these  benefit  con-
                                                                      spoke  at  Simon's  midtown  of what humans do at the  certs with all my friends and
                                                                      Manhattan  office  suite,  in  highest level. That's also an  musicians.   We'd   come.
                                                                      a  room  that  showcases  Si-  expression of humanity."   We'd play. We pack up our
                                                                      mon's  successes  and  pas-  "It's  not  that  I  don't  value,  guitars. We leave. And no-
                                                                      sions,  including  shots  of  Si-  of course, the creativity of  body  ever  says,  'Where'd
                                                                      mon  with  historical  figures  humanity, and some of the  that money go?'"q
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