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A24    TECHNOLOGY
                 Monday 17 February 2020
             Insider Q&A: Facebook VP of Messenger discusses privacy



            By BARBARA ORTUTAY                                                                                                  that conversation between
            SAN  FRANCISCO  (AP)  —                                                                                             people  should  be  private.
            At  Facebook,  Stan  Chud-                                                                                          We  don't  make  a  differ-
            novsky  oversees  the  Mes-                                                                                         ence between the conver-
            senger  chat  app  that's                                                                                           sations that are happening
            used  by  well  over  1  billion                                                                                    in the living room or on the
            people  each  month.  He's                                                                                          phone  and  conversations
            playing  a  key  role  in  help-                                                                                    that are happening in a pri-
            ing  Facebook  integrate                                                                                            vate chat.
            that app with its other chat                                                                                        Q: What if you try to sell a
            tools, WhatsApp and Insta-                                                                                          gun,  despite  Facebook's
            gram Direct.                                                                                                        ban?
            The  massive  project  has                                                                                          A:  If  you're  trying  to  sell  a
            already  gotten  pushback                                                                                           gun, you are probably try-
            from   regulators   worried                                                                                         ing  to  sell  a  gun  to  many
            about    Facebook's     size                                                                                        people.  When  someone
            and  power.  Government                                                                                             reports  that  and  someone
            officials  also  worry  about                                                                                       provides   the   messages
            Facebook's plans to extend                                                                                          that from the point of that
            end-to-end  encryption  to                                                                                          person  are  illegal,  then
            Messenger. Once that hap-                                                                                           definitely we will be able to
            pens,  Facebook  wouldn't                                                                                           look at that.
            be able to respond to law                                                                                           Q:  What  are  the  biggest
            enforcement     subpoenas                                                                                           things that you have to fig-
            because  it  wouldn't  have                                                                                         ure  out  before  interoper-
            a way to unscramble mes-                                                                                            ability becomes reality?
            sages.                                                                                                              A:  Generally,  just  a  fea-
            Chudnovsky,  who  moved                                                                                             tures  compatibility  in  the
            to  the  U.S.  from  Russia  in                                                                                     sense  that,  if  I  "like"  some
            1994,  joined  Facebook  in                                                                                         message on one app, how
            2015.  He  spoke  with  The                                                                                         does it manifest itself in an-
            Associated  Press  recently                                                                                         other?  Or  will  I  be  able  to
            about  his  work  and  views  In this undated image provided by Facebook Stan Chudnovsky, the vice president of Messenger   also  call  people,  not  only
            on  privacy.  Questions  and  at Facebook, poses for a photo.                                                       send messages?
            answers have been edited  the leaders on privacy. We  encryption.                      I don't want to go into de-  Q: Do you think scrutiny of
            for length and clarity.      are  trying  to  go  through  Q: How do you ensure that  tails on how we are thinking  Facebook  will  ease  any
            Q:  What  are  the  biggest  that  process  slowly  and  people are safe when you  about  approaching  that  time soon?
            roadblocks    in   bringing  very  responsibly  while  talk-  can't  see  bad  things  peo-  stuff. But we're just going to  A: We have a lot of respon-
            end-to-end encryption?       ing to everyone.             ple are doing?               invest heavily in identifying  sibility.  And  the  criticism,
            A: It's technologically hard  Most  messages  in  the  U.S.,  A:  We  are  going  to  con-  threats earlier,        sometimes  it's  accurate.
            to  move  from  the  system  where  (Apple's)  iMessage  tinue  to  work  very  closely  Q: You can send things in a  Sometimes  it's  not  accu-
            that is alive and functioning  is  leading,  are  already  with  law  enforcement  on  private  message  that  you  rate. At the end of the day,
            and has billions of messag-  end-to-end encrypted. We  whatever we can provide.  can't  post  on  Facebook,  what it means if everyone's
            es being sent every day to  want to make sure that we  We also have connectivity  right?                            talking about you positive-
            where it's done completely  get  to  the  point  when  we  to social networks. Whoev-  A: Definitely. You should be  ly  or  negatively  or  both,  is
            differently  architecturally.  lead  very  strongly  and  we  er is a bad player on social  able to send whatever you  that  you're  important.  We
            We also need to figure out  do  as  much  on  safety  as  networks, we will be able to  want  to  send  in  a  private  just need to continue to de-
            how to do as much as we  we  possibly  can  given  the  see if those bad players ex-   message.                     liver  value  to  people.  And
            can on safety, while being  constraints  of  end-to-end  ist on messaging services.    Q: What if it's illegal or hurt-  as long as we are building
                                                                                                   ing someone?                 products that people like. I
                                                                                                   A:  Generally  we  believe  think it's going to be fine.q
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