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Q&A: Ford and Gosling go head
to head in ‘Blade Runner 2049’
By LINDSEY BAHR know. I don’t know how old you
AP Film Writer AP: People have made a are. I really don’t. But I think
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Harri- big deal about you acci- I was about 25 or 26 when
son Ford has a running joke dentally punching Ryan, I was under contract at
that he can’t remember but what was it like to Columbia. However much
Ryan Gosling’s name.“I was perform that long fight se- past 25 you are. ... It takes
delighted for a chance to quence? more now. You have to be
work with the kid. What’s GOSLING: Squirrely. a lot more real than the
his name?” Ford told The FORD: It’s complicated. business is.
Associated Press earlier this GOSLING: Touch and go. GOSLING: Really?
year.He did it again recent- FORD: It’s complicated FORD: Back then it was
In this Sept. 21, 2017 file photo, actors Harrison Ford, left, and ly on a talk show, this time GOSLING: Hit or miss. more business than reality.
Ryan Gosling pose for photographers during the photo call for sitting next to Gosling. FORD: It was a lot of hit- They just wanted to twist
“Blade Runner 2049” in London. “Ryan?” Ford asked his ting and only one failure to you into a shape that re-
Associated Press “Blade Runner 2049” co- miss. But the camera was sembled something else,
star after a brief pause, moving, Ryan was moving something successful. They
dutifully playing the part of backward, I’m moving for- didn’t give a rat’s ass about
the “slightly aloof 75-year- ward. I’m the one who can what was individual about
old legend.”“It’s Ryan,” see where the camera is. you. Anything that might
responded Gosling, 36, in There are strobe lights go- potentially be interesting
a deadpan voice, playing ing on at the same time. about you was just not of
the “bemused co-star” role He’s reacting to the punch- interest. The business has
in the bit.Or perhaps it’s not es. It was complicated and matured a lot since then
a bit at all. It’s hard to tell that’s fun. It’s physical but and has attracted more
with these two, who some- it’s fun. I remember that mature artists.
how manage to whiplash couple of days being great AP: Is there anything that
among sincerity, sarcasm until I had to humiliate my- worries you about the state
and humor in a three- self with an apology. of Hollywood or where it’s
word response.In a recent (Gosling laughs) going?FORD: I’m not a
interview with the AP it is FORD: I had to crawl to your generalist. There is no such
clear, however, that Ford dressing room carrying a thing as Hollywood any-
and Gosling are genuinely bottle of scotch. way. It’s an imagination.
amused by one another, GOSLING: He came in and There are movies being
even if Ford might not ac- said, “I forgive you.” made all over the world,
tually know how old his co- FORD: Yeah. stories being told. Incred-
star is. GOSLING: Which was inter- ible films being made in
AP: Did you two know each esting that he describes it countries you’ve never
other before? as crawling to my dressing even heard of that are just
FORD: Him? No. I met him room to say, “I forgive you.” as advanced and emotion-
once or twice casually. But FORD: I didn’t need to say ally interesting. Hollywood
I knew his work. I loved his that. is a state of mind. It’s a
ambitions. I loved his choic- GOSLING: No, you didn’t! tourist attraction. But, hav-
es. I loved the filmmakers That was big of you. ing said that, there are still
he chose to work with when FORD: A lot of guys wouldn’t enormous resources avail-
he could have had much have made the effort. But I able for filmmakers. There
more obvious choices and reached out. are opportunities. There
I loved what it produced. GOSLING: It warmed my are people in the movie
... But the producers had heart. business who have a keen
been thinking about him AP: Ryan now is basically understanding of the busi-
anyway so it didn’t matter the same age you were ness and an appreciation
what I thought. when you became very fa- for the work and the work
AP: You had some pretty mous. Ryan, do you hope that the workers do. But the
harrowing stunts, including to follow in Harrison’s foot- notion of Hollywood is kind
a big set piece in a water steps and still be doing this of broken.
tank.GOSLING: It was a lot when you’re 75? AP: What do you think,
like it looks like on camera. FORD: Let’s call it tracks, Ryan?
FORD: Things go a lot slower not footsteps. GOSLING: I’m learning. I’m
when you’re working with GOSLING: His experience is taking notes, too.
mechanical beasts and so unique to him. The fact AP: Ryan, does this film
wave machines. The time that he, at my age was, have you thinking about
between the time it takes well, not beginning, he’d whether you’d revisit any
to take the takes takes. ... been doing it for a long of your characters some 35
Let me say that again: The time before, but at the years later?
time between the time it same time you were a fully GOSLING: The thing is any
takes to take the takes, it’s formed person before this actor would be lucky to
not the time it takes to take whole other element got create one character in
the takes, it’s the time be- introduced. I guess I can’t their career that anyone
tween it takes to take the really say that ... would want to revisit, let
takes that takes the time. FORD: You’re being gener- alone multiple times, let
GOSLING: Is this what peyo- ous. I was a late bloomer. alone multiple characters.
te feels like? It took me a long time to It’s pretty unparalleled
FORD: (laughs) I wouldn’t get me to where you are. what he’s doing.q