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A14    PEOPLE & ARTS
             Wednesday 21 september 2022

                                                                                    Q&A: James Cameron on the

                                                                                    return of 'Avatar'



                                                                                    back in cinemas. It's not where we  years  since,  much  has  only  gone
                                                                                    were before. Streaming has taken  worse  for  the  climate  and  the
                                                                                    a bite. The pandemic has taken a  health  of  the  planet.  How  much
                                                                                    bite. We're probably down 20, 25%  was that on your mind making the
                                                                                    from where we were pre-pandem-      sequels?
                                                                                    ic. I think it's going to be a very long  CAMERON: Very much so, even to
                                                                                    tail on this thing before we're back  the extent that I very strongly de-
                                                                                    to  where  we  were  before.  It's  in-  bated  with  myself  and  discussed
                                                                                    cumbent on us to double down on  with my wife whether I should stop
                                                                                    showmanship.                        filmmaking  and  work  on  the  sus-
                                                                                    AP: Over the years, some have ar-   tainability issues. But we managed
                                                                                    gued that "Avatar," despite its stat-  to  be  able  to  do  that  in  parallel
                                                                                    ure as the highest grossing film of  with the filmmaking process. We're
            This 2009 image released by 20th Century Films shows filmmaker James Cameron   all time, hasn't stuck in the culture  doing all of our sustainability efforts
            on the set of "Avatar."                                                 the way you'd expect. Do those ar-  — I don't want to say as a side hus-
                                                                   Associated Press  guments irk you?                   tle, but in parallel. I put as much ef-
            By JAKE COYLE                       "Avatar" business.                  CAMERON: I think it's true for a spe-  fort into that as I do the filmmaking.
            AP Film Writer                      Remarks  have  been  edited  for  cific reason, which is that we didn't  That  said,  the  new  "Avatar"  films
            NEW YORK (AP) — Thirteen years af-  clarity and brevity.                immediately  follow  it  up  with  an-  aren't  any  more  like  a  lecture  on
            ter James Cameron plunged mov-      AP: Does "Avatar" seem like a long  other film in two or three years, and  climate  or  environmentalism  than
            iegoers  into  the  cosmic  world  of  time ago to you?                 another film in two or three years.  the first one was. The first one was
            "Avatar," the lush, distant moon of  CAMERON:  It  feels  like  yesterday  We  didn't  play  the  Marvel  game.  an  adventure.  It  captured  you  at
            Pandora is finally orbiting back into  at times and then obviously it feels  We're playing a longer game here.  the level of character, at a level of
            view. Cameron's "Avatar" industrial  like  more  than  a  decade  other  "Avatar" isn't going anywhere, it just  storytelling. I think subtext is a use-
            complex has been whirling in high  times. The time has passed quickly.  didn't follow up with a continuous  ful way of looking at it. It's there but
            gear  for  some  time;  production  I've been doing all sorts of interest-  barrage  to  keep  it  in  the  public  it's not what's driving the story. And
            on the upcoming sequel, "Avatar:  ing  things.  Deep  ocean  research.  eye and the public consciousness,  we kept that in mind with the new
            The  Way  of  Water,"  began  back  Building  submersibles.  Writing  four  which is what you have to do. Tak-  films. Yes, "Avatar: The Way of Wa-
            in 2017. But after shuffling through  epic  movies.  Now  finishing  up  ing a lesson from that, we basically  ter" is about the oceans and our re-
            half  a  decade's  worth  of  release  "Avatar  2"  and  we're  mid-process  architected four sequels so that if  lationship with the oceans and the
            dates,  Cameron's  science-fiction  in  post  on  "Avatar  3."  So  "Avatar"  "Avatar 2" is successful, we can fol-  animals that live in it. But it's driven
            epic  is  poised  to  again  blanket  has never been far from my mind. I  low  it  up  with  a  regular  cadence  by character.
            movie screens and transport willing  constantly go back to it, obviously  —  two  years,  maybe  three  years  AP: "Avatar: The Way of Water" will
            travelers back, in 3-D, to the land  in  the  remaster  process  making  it  at the most between "3" and "4." It  bring  back  3D  and  feature  high-
            of the Na'vi.                       better than it's ever looked before.  will be in the public consciousness  frame rate footage, both of which
            For even the visionary filmmaker of  I'm  kind  of  just  living  on  Pandora  more and more regularly, but only  moviegoers  have  mixed  opinions
            "Titanic"  and  "The  Terminator,"  the  right now.                     if people embrace "Avatar 2."       on.  What  do  you  think  has  been
            relaunch  of  "Avatar"  is,  as  Cam-  AP: When you went back to watch  AP: And there is an awful lot riding  the  biggest  technological  leap  in
            eron  said  in  a  recent  interview  "Avatar," how did it look to you?  on "The Way of Water."             the last 13 years?
            from  Wellington,  New  Zealand,  "a  CAMERON: I see a lot of good work  CAMERON:  Yeah,  it's  a  big  play.  CAMERON: In terms of the presen-
            big bet." A third "Avatar" is already  by a lot of good people in terms of  It's a big bet. And we won't know  tation, we're authoring in high-dy-
            in  post-production,  and  produc-  the  production  design,  the  visual  where we are until the second or  namic range, which I think is very
            tion  has  begun  on  a  fourth.  The  effects, the groundbreaking strides  third weekend. The success of the  important.  Projection  out  there  in
            record-breaking $2.8 billion in box  that  were  made  at  that  time  in  first film — we had a pretty good  the field is brighter now than it was
            office that "Avatar" grossed made  capturing  the  performances  of  opening  at  $75  million.  But  open-  a decade ago, which is much bet-
            the  coming  "Avatar"  armada  a  the actors, and the great work of  ings  are  dwarfing  that  by  factors  ter  for  3D.  We're  judiciously  using
            far-from-risky  wager.  But  a  lot  has  the actors. It was tough to live up  of  two  or  even  three  these  days.  high-frame rates in the process of
            changed  since  the  original's  re-  to.  We  had  set  the  bar  very  high  Even if we have a stellar opening,  authoring our 3D because people
            lease, when Netflix was still renting  for  ourselves  back  then  and  we  we won't really know where we are  become  more  sensitive  to  rapid
            DVDs  by  mail  and  Cameron  was  had to live up to that bar this time  for a couple weeks because it was  lateral  motion.  Your  mind  is  more
            working for 20th Century Fox.       with the new films. I remind our VFX  the  return  visits  on  the  first  one.  It  sensitive,  so  we  solved  that  by  ju-
            To  whet  moviegoers'  appetites  team all the time: "Look at the bugs  was people wanting to go share. If  diciously applying high-frame rate
            ahead of the Dec. 16 debut of the  in the forest in the first movie. We  we get that again, we'll probably  here and there throughout the film.
            three-hour "Avatar: The Way of Wa-  had better bugs!"                   be on solid ground.                 That's all at the service of making it
            ter" — and remind them of a movie  AP:  Moviegoing  rebounded  this  AP: I think the odds are in your fa-   a better viewing experience.
            world  they  may  have  lost  touch  summer  but  there's  been  a  late-  vor.                             I  don't  think  anybody  should  go
            with — the Walt Disney Co. on Fri-  summer  lull  that  the  "Avatar"  re-  CAMERON:  Nobody  knows.  The  see a movie because it's authored
            day will rerelease "Avatar" in a re-  release  may  help  jumpstart.  How  market  has  changed.  Twenty-five  a certain way. That's just part of our
            mastered, 4K, HDR version that he  do you see the health of theatrical  percent  could  be  our  entire  mar-  showmanship. I think the reasons to
            says is "better than it's ever looked."  right now?                     gin. It's one thing to make a lot of  see this film are the same reasons
            It's an opening salvo in Cameron's  CAMERON:  It's  shown  resiliency  money,  it's  another  thing  to  actu-  to  see  the  first  one.  You  enter  a
            ambitious  plan  to  sketch  a  yet-  that I don't think we expected. The  ally  make  a  profit.  We're  not  go-  world. You become fully immersed
            grander  sci-fi  saga,  and  to  again  pandemic,  quite  rightly,  scared  ing  to  keep  making  movies  that  in  it.  You  feel  like  it  surrounds  you
            conjure  a  cinematic  experience,  everybody.  There  was  a  period  lose money even though they look  and  you  become  an  inhabitant
            as he says, "that you simply cannot  of  time  where  you  were  basically  good and make a ton of money.  there, and you get to linger there.
            have in the home." Taking a break  risking  your  life  to  go  to  the  mov-  This  is  a  wait-and-see,  let's-put-it-  You go on that journey. Of course,
            from all the "Avatar" juggling, Cam-  ies.  People  did  it  anyway.  Now,  out-there-and-see-if-people-em-  in the new film, it's a bit longer be-
            eron talked  re-watching the  origi-  we  feel  like  we're  past  the  hump  brace-it kind of situation.   cause  we  have  more  characters
            nal, his expectation for "The Way of  or at least it's a manageable prob-  AP:  "Avatar"  was  especially  rich  and  more  story  to  service.  I  think
            Water" and why he nearly quit the  lem.  We're  seeing  a  resurgence  in an ecological subtext. In the 13  people are very story-driven. q
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