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                                                                                     PEOPLE & ARTS Saturday 15 February 2020
            Lizzo talks diversity, self-confidence and femininity




            By  BERENICE  BAUTISTA  As-
            sociated Press
            MEXICO CITY (AP) — Fresh
            from  winning  three  Gram-
            mys,  singer  Lizzo  visited
            Mexico  City  for  a  private
            concert, surprising her fans
            with  acoustic  versions  of
            her hits and a toast with te-
            quila.
            The  star  from  Detroit,  who
            won  best  pop  solo  per-
            formance  ("Truth  Hurts"),
            best  traditional  R&B  per-
            formance  ("Jerome"),  and
            best  urban  contemporary
            album for "Cuz I Love You,"
            at  the  January  awards
            show  sat  for  an  interview
            with  The  Associated  Press.
            Lizzo  spoke  about  diversity
            in  the  music  industry,  self-
            confidence  and  femininity
            and  the  disputes  over  the
            authorship of "Truth Hurts."
            Answers have been edited
            for brevity and clarity.
            AP:   Congratulations   on
            your Grammys. There was a
            controversy about the lack
            of  diversity  at  the  awards
            this year. What would be an   Recording artist Lizzo performs at the Pepsi Zero Sugar Super Bowl Party at Meridian on Island Gardens in Miami on Friday, Jan. 31,
            ideal version of the Gram-   2020, in Miami, Fla.
            mys for you?                                                                                                     (Photo by Scott Roth/Invision/AP)
            LIZZO: There's always a lack  AP: I grew up watching pop  to  get  there.  It  sounds  so  this still going on?     internet or that came from
            of  diversity,  that's  the  is-  stars that were blonde, su-  cliché, but life is your great-  LIZZO:  What  it's  done,  is  a  tweet  or  came  from  a
            sue in general. I don't think  per skinny, that looked per-  est  teacher  and  you  learn  done.  I  was  so  happy  to  meme,  but  that  person
            it's  like  "the  2020  Grammys  fect in every way. Then you  the  best  lessons  from  life.  I  give up a piece of my song-  who  created  it  never  got
            lack  diversity,"  it's  like  the  come  up  and  I'm  grateful  learned a lot in the last 10  writing  credit  to  a  woman  credit  and  the  songwriter
            industry  lacks  diversity.  So,  for that.               years  about  myself,  about  in  London  who  tweeted  'I  only gets credit. At the end
            the  world  I  would  like  to  LIZZO: I'm perfect, sis! Take  who I am. I also learned to  took  a  DNA  test,  I'm  100%  of the day, there's nothing
            see, of course, has an even  that back! I think that even  love that person.           that bitch,' like she tweeted  new  under  the  sun,  but  it
            playfield:  I  think  there  are  the blonde, thin pop stars,  AP:  Your  song  "Lingerie"  it the same year that I wrote  definitively taught me how
            more  women,  more  black  they  have  imperfections,  portrays a woman is a very  the song, and I was happy  to  be  more  careful  in  the
            people,  more  brown  peo-   but  unfortunately  the  me-  sensual  way.  Do  you  think  to share that with her. Even  future.
            ple, more people from oth-   dia  portrays  them  as  per-  women  should  embrace  though I've never seen that  AP: You play classical flute.
            er countries where you just  fect, and I think that even  and own their femininity?    tweet,  I  knew  that  she  in-  Do  you  see  yourself  doing
            don't put them in a foreign  those women struggle with  LIZZO: I think women should  spired  one  of  the  biggest  something in the future with
            category, you put them in  having to live up to a body  embrace  whatever  it  is  songs of 2019.                   Björk, who also likes flute?
            THE  category.  Someone  type  or  stereotype  and  about  themselves.  I  think  She didn't write the song at  LIZZO: I'm such a Björk fan!
            like BTS.                    probably  suffer  from  a  lot  femininity is also something  all  and  the  other  people  I  would  love  to  play  flute
            But I think that comes with  of depression. I am brown,  that can be in flux. I think a  who  claimed  to  write  the  with Björk. I think that Björk is
            just participation and using  I am black, I am curvy, and  woman can also embrace  song  didn't  write  it  either,  like a Missy Elliott where it's
            my privilege now as some-    I am perfect and beautiful.  her  masculinity.  I  think  a  but  that's  what  happens  a privilege to work with her.
            one  in  the  industry  with  a  And I think that we, as well  woman  can  embrace  her  when  you  become  author  And  she  doesn't  have  to
            platform to just bring other  as other people like Billie Eil-  androgyny,  her  abilities  to  of a number one hit song,  work  with  everybody  or
            people up.                   ish  —  I  am  completely  dif-  be  everything.  I  personally  everyone  wants  to  state  anybody,  so  I  am  waiting
            AP:  From  the  Grammys  ferent  from  her,  but  she  is  am a hyper-feminine wom-    claim  on  it,  but  the  only  for that Björk phone call.
            you received, any that you  also  rebelling  against  the  an.                         person who I was happy to  AP:  Being  here  in  Mexico,
            were not expecting?          archetype of the pop star.  I  embrace  my  mascu-        give a piece of that success  is  there  something  that  in-
            LIZZO:  I  did  not  expect  to  So, I'm glad you're grateful  line  side,  but  I  am  hyper-  too was a black woman in  spires  you  about  the  Latin
            win  the  first  award  of  the  for me, but you also need  feminine.  I  have  a  lingerie  London  who  tweeted  one  American culture?
            night (best pop solo perfor-  to understand that I am just  closet in my bedroom, and  of  the  most  clever  things  I  LIZZO:  Culture  inspires  me,
            mance.)  I  thought  Beyon-  as  perfect  as  they  are.  So  I wanted to celebrate that  ever heard.               period. And I love Mexico.
            cé was going to win, I really  are you.                   about myself. I think that it  AP: It's so hard to claim that  It's  my  second  time  here,
            did. I was even going, 'Be-  AP:  Were  you  always  this  ain't for everybody, but I do  something is original nowa-  and I always want to come.
            yoncé, Beyoncé.'             confident, or did you have  think that we should be cel-  days.                        Now I'll come back for my
            But  I'm  so  grateful  and  it  to find the confidence with-  ebrating ourselves more.  LIZZO: Oh my God, tell me  birthday,  'cause  I  have
            was a very special, power-   in yourself?                 AP:  There  was  a  dispute  about  it!  And  for  me,  my  been  here  for  work  now.  I
            ful moment. Here's to more  LIZZO:  You  really  have  to  about  the  authorship  of  ego  got  in  the  way  be-  want to come here for play
            moments like that in the fu-  find  it  within  yourself,  but  your song "Truth Hurts." Has  cause  I've  seen  a  lot  of  so  I  can  really  explore  the
            ture.                        you have to go through life  this  been  sorted  out  or  is  songs  that  came  from  the  culture. q
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