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3. When the Saviour had said this, Mary continued again and said unto the Saviour: "My
Lord, still do I question thee andhide [it] not from me. Now, therefore, my Lord, who

compelleth then the man until he sinneth?"
4. The Saviour answered and said unto Mary: "It is the rulers of the Fate who compel the
man until he sinneth."

5. Mary answered and said unto the Saviour: "My Lord, surely the rulers do not come
down to the world and compel the man until he sinneth?"

6. The Saviour answered and said unto Mary: "They do not come down in this manner into
the world. But the rulers of the Fate, when an old soul is about to come down through
them, then the rulers of that great Fate who [are] in the regions of the head of the
æons,--which is that region which is called the region of the kingdom of Adamas, and

which is that region which is in face of the Virgin of Light,--then the rulers of the region
of that head give the old soul a cup of forgetfulness out of the seed of wickedness, filled
with all the different desires and all forgetfulness. And straightway, when that soul shall
drink out of the cup, it forgetteth all the regions to which it hath gone, and all the
chastisements in which it hath travelled. And that cup of the water of forgetfulness
becometh body outside the soul, and it resembleth the soul in all [its] figures and

maketh [itself] like it,--which is what is called the counterfeiting spirit.
7. "If on the other hand it is a new soul which they have taken out of the sweat of the
rulers and out of the tears of their eyes, or far rather out of the breath of their mouths,--
in a word, if it is one of the new souls or one of such souls, if it is one out of the sweat,

then the five great rulers of the great Fate take up the sweat of all the rulers of their
æons, knead it together withal, portion it and make it into a soul. Or far rather if it is
refuse of the purification of the Light, then Melchisedec taketh it up from the rulers. The
five great rulers of the great Fate knead the refuse together, portion it and make it into
different souls, so that every one of the rulers of the æons, every one of them putteth
his portion into the soul. For this cause they knead it jointly, so that all may [par]take of

the soul.
8. "And the five great rulers, if they portion it and make it into souls, bring it out of the
sweat of the rulers. But if it is one out of the refuse of the purification of the Light, then
Melchisedec, the great Receiver of the Light, taketh it [sc. the refuse] up from the rulers,
or far rather if it is out of the tears of their eyes or out of the breath of their mouth,--in a

word, out of such souls, when the five rulers portion it and make it into different souls,--
or far rather if it is an old soul, then the ruler who is in the head of the æons, himself
mixeth the cup of forgetfulness with the seed of wickedness, and he mixeth it with
every one of the new souls at the time when he is in the region of the head. And that
cup of forgetfulness becometh the counterfeiting spirit for that soul, and bideth outside