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BiTS:  Now I gather that you have recently gone back to the Alligator label, but they were the first
    company you signed up with. Is that true, or am I mistaken?

    TE: Well, I have been with two other record labels prior to that - a very small blues and jazz label

    named Southland Records. That was the very first one when I was in a band called The Heartfixers
    and then after that, I was with Landslide records for three albums in The Heartfixers and then in
    1988, 34 years ago, I got with Alligator Records, and I’ve been with Alligator most of that time
    although I have left to do stuff with other labels as well.

    BiTS: When you were touring the world when you first became professional, is there some

                                                          outstanding gig that you can remember where you
                                                          were standing on a stage somewhere in the world
                                                          and you thought, my God, what on Earth am I doing
                                                          here?

                                                          TE:  Oh yes. All the times that we’ve opened for
                                                          artists that were heroes of mine and then I’d be the

                                                          opening act and then next thing you know they
                                                          would call me up onto the stage to play. Some of
                                                          those people were Albert Collins and Buddy Guy
                                                          and Otis Rush, Son Seals and Koko Taylor, James
                                                          Cotton and rock bands too like Allman Brothers or
                                                          Gov't Mule or Tedeschi Trucks.


                                                          BiTS:  That’s a wonderful list of names you’ve just
                                                          given me there. It’s always one of the sadnesses of
                                                          my life I never got to see Albert Collins play live.

    TE: He was a very nice man. He was very nice to me as well. We kept in touch.

    BiTS:  I want to talk to you about your latest record but let’s talk first of all about “Ice Cream in
    Hell”. First of all, why the title?


    TE: The one before the new one. Those are two things that don’t really exist together, ice cream in
    hell, so it’s kind of like a saying, almost like grateful dead. Obviously, if you’re dead [chuckles]
    you’re not going to be grateful. ‘Ice Cream in Hell’, so the singer says we’ll get back together when
    they serve ice cream in hell, which means it’s never going to happen. That was the title song of that
    album which we did prior to the new one and that album came out in, I think, 2020.

    BiTS:  I gather that when you were out promoting the album, you were doing that when COVID hit

    and you got badly caught some distance away from home.

    TE: Oh yes, and it was a bad situation, but we had to come home and I’ve been home ever since and
    I’m going to start again soon.

    BiTS: When you were at home you spent a lot of time, I think, writing music. I read somewhere
    that you wrote in lockdown 200 songs. Is that right?

    TE:  Yes, I have. I came back from Ice Cream in Hell tour and I was very discouraged because all the

    tour went away and I had all this time and I didn’t lose my playing abilities, so I designated every
    morning from seven or eight in the morning until noon as the time I would write songs and I came
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