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BiTS: Did you have a job at that time? I take it that you weren't a professional musician from the

     go.

     SK:  Well, no, I think that was part of the problem. When I left school, I was a bench fitter, an
     engineer. I left school at 16, fifth year and I went out and I got a job in an engineering factory.
     Remember, I don’t know if you’re old enough, Midland Bank.

     BiTS:  Yes, I remember.

     SK:  Do you remember those screens that the Midland Bank used to have up?


     BiTS:  Yes.

     SK: That’s what I used to make. The company that I was working for they had the contract to
     build all those screens at the time. I did that for a few years, and as I say, I was just getting more
     and more frustrated because that wasn’t what I wanted to do. There was something inside me
                                                                                              that said this isn’t

                                                                                              the end product
                                                                                              for you. I didn’t
                                                                                              know what it was,
                                                                                              but I know that
                                                                                              what I was doing
                                                                                              at the time wasn’t
                                                                                              it. At the time you

                                                                                              could maybe get
                                                                                              two jobs in a day.
                                                                                              There was plenty
                                                                                              of employment.
                                                                                              This was in the

                                                                                              60s - 64, 65, 66,
                                                                                              around that time.
                                                                                              So I tried four or
     five different jobs. Again it wasn’t for me and that’s where I think the frustration came in, or
     part of it, anyway. I needed to get rid of that frustration somehow. I wasn’t a violent person. I’m
     still not a violent person, so it needed dissipating some other way.


     BiTS:  When do you consider you became a professional musician? When you did nothing else
     but music?

     SK: I suppose I became a professional musician the first time I got paid to do the gig.

     BiTS:  [Laughing] Technically, that’s true.

     SK: That gig at the Oval House, but that wasn’t the objective to become a professional musician.
     I was just in a situation. Played. Enjoyed immensely what I was doing and the guys I was

     working with enjoyed what I was doing, and it came from that. I played a lot, but it wasn’t
     sufficient to keep me going. I had to do other jobs. Cleaning jobs. Any job that I could get to
     support the music.

     BiTS:  When did the music become the principle source of income then?
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