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Bloomberg Businessweek                     The Year Ahead 2019                         Finance


        Interview                Jonathan Gray
                                 Jonathan Gray
        Interview



                                                   We make commitments to them when we take
                                                   their capital for a decade or more. That is the
                                                   essence of our business model, and we don’t
                                                   intend to change that. In this case, obviously
                                                   what occurred there was very concerning. But
                                                   again we’re taking a long-term view.

                                                   You’re now in many businesses beyond private
                                                   equity and real estate. What are the implica-
                                                   tions of that?

                                                   It gives us many more tools as the environment
                                                   shifts. Use energy as an example—that’s a
                                                   market that went through its cycle in 2016 and
                                                   hit its bottom, and it’s still coming out of that.
                                                   There are good opportunities for our energy
                                                   fund. We’ve got all these different things we
                                                   can do, and it makes the investable universe
                                                   much larger for us and makes our business
                                                   more all-weather.                            “It’s getting
                                                                                               tougher as
        ▷ Gray is president and chief              Blackstone went public in 2007. It seems like
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        operating officer of private equity        stock investors have said, “We kind of don’t   rates start
        giant Blackstone Group LP                  get it.” Why?                               to move up”
                                                   We definitely came out at a tough time. The
        What’s the biggest single issue for Blackstone   nature of the business is changing. As we get
        in 2019?                                   more perpetual capital to manage, we get a
                                                   step up on our fee earnings, which investors
        I think for any large investment organization,   value more highly because they’re more pre-
        it’s thinking about deploying capital as you get   dictable and that grows. What we try to tell
        later in an economic cycle.                investors is that the most sophisticated pools
                                                   of capital in the world are enthusiastic about
        How late are we in the economic cycle?     what we do. We raised $125 billion in the last
                                                   12 months, and we’re talking about similar num-
        I differentiate between the economic cycle   bers going forward. This is a sector that people
        and the valuations cycle. This is more like   should not put a huge discount on in terms of
        where we were in 1997, when we had a really   valuation, but actually a premium. We pay out
        good economic run which would continue     these large dividends, and we’re now buying
        for a number of years, but valuations didn’t   back stock.
        grow as much. I think the underpinnings eco-
        nomically in the U.S. are still pretty good, but   What’s your biggest worry for 2019?
        it’s getting tougher as interest rates start to
        move up.                                   In the U.S., that we get a movement upwards in
                                                   rates and that shakes some asset classes. In
        Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund made a   Europe, I think that will be more about volatil-
        big commitment to Blackstone’s infrastructure   ity. The Brexit thing will be messy until the end,
        fund. Have recent events changed anything?   but I think things will continue to muddle along.
                                                   The good news in Europe as an investor is a lot
        We’re very much in a long-term business. We   of investors are scared off and that’s creating            NATHAN BAJAR
        have long-term relationships with institutions.   opportunity. <BW> ——Jason Kelly
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