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Chief of Mangerton is truly incorrect. If you examine the dates of Siward and the date of the second Laird of
Mangerton, one lived in the llth century and the next in the 14th century. A three hundred year gap!

The earliest reference to anyone using the name in historical documents is in the 13th century and appears in a
charter relating to a monastic settlement in Cumberland. The earliest reference to the Armstrongs in Scotland
appears in a land rent roll of the 14th century.

Over the past ten years five of us have worked on the early years of the Armstrongs from the 13th century until the
15th century. Through examination of Royal Land Grants of the 13th century it is now found that the name of our
family before Adam Armstrong of Ousby, was De Ireby, which family stems from the 1lth century and descends
from Ivor Taillbois a Norman knight who was awarded lands in Cumberland and the Midlands of England by
William the Conqueror. The Armstrongs of Ousby sold their lands and received land from Robert the Bruce, and
one of the female members of the De Ireby family married the Grandfather of Robert the Bruce. She inherited land
from her husband in the Liddel valley, which land subsequently came into the hands of her relatives, the
Armstrongs. I am presently writing this evidence up into a book for publication by the Trust. There is a connection
with Siward but it is very tenuous and only arises through a succession of female marriages and linked with the
Bruces.

The story you mention in your notes on the Internet regarding the beheading of Tostig by Siward is likewise
incorrect. Tostig was still alive after the death of Siward. Charles Kingsley who held the Chair of History at Oxford
University did a tremendous amount of work researching Siward and his second son Waltheof, who had no sons,
only daughters. Of the first son Osbeorn and his supposed two sons, there is little evidence.

Actually there were eleven Lairds of Mangerton recorded in State Papers and elsewhere. The Armstrongs of
Mangerton were never "Lords". There is in Scotland, a great deal of difference between "Lords" and "Lairds."

Like yourself, until I commenced to question many of the records, by date, source document and the like, having
read much of the supposed history of the Armstrongs, I believed what I read. Colourful, interesting it really is,
but the true historical story is even more so."

The Lairds of Mangerton

The following is intended to provide at least a minimal insight into the history
of the Armstrong Clan of the Scottish borderlands. It is intended to summarize
the commonly understood history and succession of the Lairds of Mangerton.
Many books are available about this period of Armstrong borderland
dominance, and although Alan Armstrong above makes reference to 11 Lairds
during this era, the Armstrong Chronicles and other publications commonly list
the following 10 Lairds of Mangerton (the Laird being the head man or leader
of the family or clan, who lived in the castle called Mangerton, situated in
Armstrong Tartan
Liddesdale on the Liddal River in Scotland).

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1st Laird -- Alexander Armstrong known to have inhabited Mangerton Castle prior to 1320.
2nd Laird -- Alexander Armstrong known as "The Young Laird." Murdered by Lord Soulis at
Hermitage Castle in 1320.
3rd Laird -- Alexander Armstrong known to be a bondsman for the Earl of Douglas in 1398.
4th Laird -- Archibald Armstrong charged on 11/19/1493 as an outlaw for slaying the Laird of Ealdmer.

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