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                                                                                                                                            CD: Maybe the first five years I felt that way.   got accepted by a church newsletter.  you bring in a new
                                                                                                                                            I don’t feel that now I guess.      My brother is a film director and I some-        person they’re
                                                                                                                                              It  was  the  ideas  behind  design  that  first   times liken art direction to film directing.   gonna want to put
                                                                                                                                            interested me rather than the formal stuff.   They start with a script, basically just words   their own stamp on
                                                                                                                                            Graphic design – layout – seemed such a sur-  on white paper, and they read it and start to   it quickly.
                                                                                                                                            face profession. I remember finding an issue   imagine and visualise it. You can do it a thou-  magCulture  It wasn’t right
                                                                                                                                            of Eye magazine in Canada and reading about   sand different ways – if you take the same   for the magazine
                                                                                                                                            design as a tool for social means, and not just   script to different directors they’re going to   Team Creative director   to head in a new
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Jeremy Leslie has 30
                                                                                                                                            a tool for capitalism. Tibor Kalman was in the   visualise it in very different ways.  years experience of   direction, it had
                                                                                                                                            issue [Eye 20] and I think he came at graphics   In editorial design we do a similar thing.   magazine making.   really only just
                                                                                                                                            from a non-design angle as well.  You read a manuscript and it’s got a certain   He has art directed   settled down, so
                                                                                                                                              After I graduated in psychology I was tak-  mood to it, a certain tone, and we work to   weeklies and monthlies   that was basically
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 and spent the
                                                                                                                                            ing classes in different things and I did pho-  communicate that. You can pull out cer-  noughties developing   the brief: keep
                                                                                                                                            tography. I remember thinking maybe this is   tain words in the headline, or reduce the   magazines for clients   doing what we’re
                                                                                                                                            the thing. I was shooting a lot and enjoying   headline down to one word alongside a   as diverse as BSkyB,   doing and just
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Nike, Virgin Atlantic
                                                                                                                                            the classes. Then I did some illustration classes   photograph and you get a tension between   and Waitrose. He   continue to evolve
                                                                                                                                            and that’s what brought it all together. At the   word and image.    has written four   it. If you look at the
                                                                                                                                            Emily Carr Institute there were classes in art   I  like  to  try  three  or  four  different  ap-  books about editorial   issues, at the end
                                                                                                                                            direction and photography, art direction and   proaches to a feature, emphasising certain   design, most recently   of each year a new
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ‘Independence’, and
                                                                                                                                            illustration.  And  there was typography,  and   words or photographs that would change the   regularly contributes to   aesthetic would
                                                                                                                                            editorial design, and I could see this was the   meaning. We show these options to the edi-  the creative press and   take hold. We
                                                                                                                                            one profession that accessed all those other   tor and it’s always an interesting discussion. It’s   lectures internationally.   figured we would
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 He launched
                                                                                                                                            things. You weren’t dependent on one.  not a one-sided journey – seeing words and   magCulture as a blog   keep growing
                                                                                                                                              That appealed to me, being at the centre   images together enhances that process. It’s an   in 2006, adding the   that way.
                                                                                                                                            of all these things with a team of people to   iterative, collaborative process.  design studio in 2010.   JL: That’s one of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 As well as his own
                                                                                                                                            collaborate with. You’re not on your own –   JL: Did you automatically get the design di-  London practice he   the advantages on
                                                                                                                                            you have your skills as a graphic designer but   rector position at New York?  is creative director   a weekly, you have
                                                                                                                                            you’re building something, working with other                        for Maison Moderne   more opportunity
                                                                                                                                            people to develop ideas. That was a bit of a   CD: No, I was put in charge temporarily. I had   in Luxembourg, is an   to gradually change
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 awarded member of
                                                                                                                                            breakthrough, I think.            a bunch of conversations with Adam about   D&AD and an elected   stuff.
                                                                                                                                            JL: Did you really have no        whether I was interested or not. Adam saw   member of AGI. His   CD: Right, and with
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 favourite magazines
                                                                                                                                                                                it could be an opportunity but said take
                                                                                                                                            interest in design                    some time and think about it. I’m sure   are The New Yorker,   it being a vehicle
                                                                                                                                            before then?                           he thought other people might be out   MacGuffin and mono.  that could change
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 kultur.
                                                                                                                                            CD: My mother did an                    there, but within a month or so we           for a special issue,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 we would regular
                                                                                                                                            English masters and my                  came back together and I decided to
                                                                                                                                            father taught theatre                    go for it and he offered me the job.  ly develop a whole new design, then switch
                                                                                                                                            direction. That was the                  JL: And then there was a big de-  back to the regular design the following week.
                                                                                                                                                                                                               At least once a month you could rebuild a
                                                                                                                                            kind of household we                     cision to be made about whether   whole section and try a different direction.
                                                                                                                                            had. I was surrounded                    to retain the same design, the same   And also you could experiment with the
                                                                                                                                            by the arts but I don’t                 aesthetic, or develop a new direction   cover, take a chance, and if something doesn’t
                                                                                                                                            remember feeling any                       with things.
                                                                                                                                            one part was mine. As a                                            work you just move on to the next one.
                                                                                                                                            teenager I was obsessed                          CD: I think one of   JL: As well as your internal team, there were
                                                                                                                                            with cartoon strips,                               the reasons Adam   many external contributors: illustrators, type
                                                                                                                                            and a friend and                                    considered     designers. Do you find you have to have re-
                                                                                                                                            I used to                                            keeping me in   lationships with increasing numbers of peo-
                                                                                                                                            draw classic                                          the job was   ple who contribute on very particular parts
                                                                                                                                            four-panel                                             that he knew   of a project?
                                                                                                                                            strips and                                             I had helped   CD: It’s the advantage of being on a magazine
                                                                                                                                            submit                                                  build what   people respect and like and are excited about.
                                                                                                                                            them to                                                 was there,   You can reach out to all these people from
                                                                                                                                            maga-                                                    and he and   different disciplines and have them contribute.
                                                                                                                                            zines                                                    everyone    We built a great team of people that did all
                                                                                                                                            and                                                      really    this work with us. Type designers developed
                                                                                                                                            news-                                                    loved it at   bespoke headline treatments for us, just the
                                                                                                                                            papers.                                                  that point.   headline, not a whole typeface. Matt Willey
                                                                                                                                            One                                                      When      was a regular typographic contributor.


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