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                Funds Q&A: How much more will interest rates climb?




            By STAN CHOE                                                                                                        federal  borrowing  level  is
            AP Business Writer                                                                     Q: Many voices are calling  changing.  Supply  and  de-
            NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  Every-                                                             this a big inflection point for  mand (for Treasurys) come
            where bond-fund investors                                                              the bond market. How mo-     much  more  in  balance,
            look, reasons to fear seem                                                             mentous is this right now?   which  means  rates  can
            to be lurking.                                                                         A: I would agree that things  move higher.
            After  decades  of  drop-                                                              are  changing,  but  I  don’t
            ping  interest  rates  led  to                                                         think  they’re  momentous.  Q: How much higher?
            strong  and  steady  returns                                                           Rates  are  going  to  move  A:  We  think  2.50  percent
            for  bond  funds,  condi-                                                              moderately higher. There’s  to 2.75 percent for the 10-
            tions  seem  to  be  massing                                                           a  demand  for  income  in  year Treasury this year. You
            in  the  opposite  direction.                                                          the world driven by demo-    can move to 3.25 percent
            The Federal Reserve raised                                                             graphics that’s generation-  next year.
            short-term rates last month,                                                           ally historic, and whenever
            the  third  time  it’s  done  so                                                       rates back up, you see this  Q:  Inflation  has  also  re-
            since  December.  It’s  also                                                           tremendous  buying  come  mained low for a long time
            planning  to  pare  the  vast                                                          in (which in turn lessens the  now, and it sounds like you
            trove  of  bonds  it  built  up                                                        upward pressure on rates).   think  it  can  stay  that  way
            to keep rates low following                                                            The only thing that’s differ-  for  a  while,  which  would
            the financial crisis.        This photo provided by BlackRock shows Rick Rieder, chief in-  ent  than  historically  is  the  moderate rising rates.
            Even  words  from  way       vestment  officer  of  global  fixed  income  at  BlackRock.  Rieder   interest-rate  sensitivity  of  A: One of the reasons why
            across the Atlantic are rat-  spoke with The Associated Press about shifts in the bond market.   the  market  is  higher.  Small  this is an inflection point but
                                                       (Jerry Goldberg/Courtesy of BlackRock via AP)
            tling the U.S. bond market.                                                            moves  in  rates  can  lead  not  momentous  is  we’re
            The European Central Bank    T-note  up  to  2.35  percent  into  bond  funds  through   to  decent-sized  moves  in  witnessing something that’s
            said  a  couple  weeks  ago   from 2.13 percent.          the  first  five  months  of  this   price.               truly  historic.  First,  what
            that  it  could  trim  stimulus   Rick  Rieder,  chief  invest-  year,  nearly  double  last                        drove  the  volatility  in  infla-
            efforts if that region’s econ-  ment officer of global fixed  year’s  pace  at  the  same   Q: So many factors seem to  tion  over  the  last  25  to  30
            omy  keeps  strengthening.   income     at   BlackRock,  point, according to the In-   be  pushing  the  U.S.  bond  years  was  energy  and  oil.
            That could send European     which manages $1.6 trillion  vestment  Company  Insti-    market,  not  just  the  Fed  We’re witnessing a greater
            rates  higher,  luring  money   in  bonds,  says  the  bond  tute. That deep hunger for   raising rates.            equilibrium in oil, and OPEC
            back into European bonds     market  is  indeed  going  income, a result of an ag-     A:  Long-end  interest  rates  doesn’t drive the price any
            and out of Treasurys.        through  a  change.  But  he  ing  population  looking  to   are  influenced  more  by  more.  There  are  so  many
            Anticipating  such  a  shift,   cautions  investors  not  to  retire, should help keep the   the European Central Bank  other players.
            investors  pushed  Treasury   get carried away.           upturn for rates moderate,   and  the  Bank  of  Japan  Second  is  housing  prices.
            prices lower over the past   Demand for bonds has re-     Rieder says.                 than  the  Fed,  ironically.  You go back 20 or 30 years,
            two weeks, helping to send   mained  strong  this  year,  Answers have been edited     When  Europe  takes  some  and  the  Baby  Boomers
            the  yield  on  the  10-year   and  $170  billion  flowed  for length and clarity.     of  the  pressure  off  interest  were  driving  the  environ-
                                                                                                   rates,  it’s  so  dramatically  ment  for  housing  prices,
                                                                                                   large,  it  allows  the  long  and  you  don’t  see  that
                                                                                                   end of our interest rates to  now.
                                                                                                   move out.                      Third,  technology  is  press-
                                                                                                                                ing  down  on  inflation  like
                                                                                                   Q:  What  about  the  Fed  nobody’s  ever  seen  be-
                                                                                                   paring  back  its  $4.5  billion  fore.  You  saw  it  in  the  last
                                                                                                   in  bond  investments?  Will  (Consumer  Price  Index)
                                                                                                   that  have  a  bigger  effect  report.  From  apparel  to
                                                                                                   on  the  market  than  any  transportation, i.e. the Uber
                                                                                                   rate increases?              effect, you’re creating this
                                                                                                   A:  They’re  starting  very,  unbelievable  pressure  on
                                                                                                   very  slowly.  The  reduction  potential inflation.
                                                                                                   of  the  balance  sheet,  this  Inflation will go higher, but
                                                                                                   year, is a smaller influence  we’re  going  to  be  in  this
                                                                                                   than a rate move. They’re  range  of  in  and  around  2
                                                                                                   talking  about  $10  billion  a  percent inflation.
                                                                                                   month,  which  relative  to
                                                                                                   the  size  of  fixed  income  Q:  So  what  can  investors
                                                                                                   markets is tiny.             expect  from  their  bond
                                                                                                   But  in  the  next  two  years,  funds? Certainly not the big
                                                                                                   the  pace  is  increasing  at  returns they got from earlier
                                                                                                   the  same  time  that  the  years. q
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