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A30    PEOPLE & ARTS
                   Friday 11 august 2017
                                                                      Q&A: Samuel Jackson on race,


                                                                      Trump and loving his job





                                                                      By JAKE COYLE                What  do  you  love  about  on  the  screen.  It’s  just  not
                                                                      AP Film Writer               the word ‘motherf-----’?     what  I  expected.  I  guess
                                                                      NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  Samuel  Jackson:  It’s  a  kind  of  all-  growing up like Baldwin did
                                                                      L.  Jackson  isn’t  just  in  the  encompassing  word  that  in  an  inclusive  society  in
                                                                      movies. He IS the movies.    describes a lot of different  New  York,  was  very  differ-
                                                                      Does  any  other  actor  so  feelings and a lot of differ-  ent. For me, everything was
                                                                      fully  embody  the  high-oc-  ent things. It all depends on  very  separate.  Even  the
                                                                      tane thrills, the colorful lan-  the inflection, the place in  movie theaters I was going
                                                                      guage, the sheer bigness of  a  particular  sentence  that  to were all-black theaters. I
            In this April 20, 2017 photo, Samuel L. Jackson poses for a portrait   American movies? Jackson  allows  someone  to  under-  went to a theater that was
            in New York to promote his film, “The Hitman’s Bodyguard.”  is,  not  coincidentally,  typi-  stand  what  you’re  saying  specifically  black,  in  my
                                                                      cally ranked as the highest  and how you feel about it.  neighborhood.  My  whole
                                                                      all-time box-office star with  It’s very freeing in an inter-  existence was black. I only
                                                                      nearly  $5  billion  in  North  esting sort of way to relieve  encountered white people
                                                                      American ticket sales over  the  pressure  of  the  impor-  when  I  went  downtown.
                                                                      his career. He’s a mainstay  tance of something some-     Now when I did see Sidney
                                                                      of  Marvel,  a  veteran  of  times.  You  can  elevate  Poitier  or  Harry  Belafon-
                                                                      both  “Star  Wars”  and  “Ju-  something  with  mother----  te,  I  often  questioned  my
                                                                      rassic  Park,”  and  the  de-  or  you  can  deflate  it  with  mama about why he died
                                                                      pendable muse of Quentin  mother----. The word works  all  the  time.  Then  when
                                                                      Tarantino.  He’s  the  bringer  in  so  many  wonderful  and  I  started  getting  cast  in
                                                                      of  “great  vengeance  and  amazing ways.                 something,  I’d  flip  through
                                                                      furious anger” and the rid-  AP:  Wasn’t  it  also  a  word  the  script  and  see  what
                                                                      der of snakes from planes.   you  used  to  help  you  get  page I died on. I got it, at
                                                                      Jackson  —  ever-changing  over  stuttering  as  a  young  that point.
                                                                      but  always  himself  —  is  adult?                       AP:  You’ll  do  movies  with
                                                                      ubiquitous.  He  travels,  al-  Jackson: I still do, as you’ve  Raoul Peck and Spike Lee,
                                                                      ways, with dozens of mov-    probably  noticed  when  I  but you generally seem to
                                                                      ies with him (John Woo and  talk too fast. It was the re-  favor larger popcorn mov-
                                                                      Asian  films  are  especially  lease word. It was in the pin  ies  like  “Kong:  Skull  Island”
                                                                      beloved)    and   regularly  in the bubble.               or “The Legend of Tarzan.”
                                                                      goes to the movie theater,  AP:  Not  everyone  in  Hol-  Jackson:  When people say,
                                                                      even  to  see  his  own  mov-  lywood  always  looks  like  “You  do  genre  movies,”
                                                                      ies. More than anyone else,  they’re   enjoying   them-   well, that’s what the movies
                                                                      Jackson  makes  being  a  selves, but you do.             were like when I was grow-
                                                                      movie star look fun.         Jackson:  Yeah,  I  do.  It’s  ing  up.  Yeah,  sure,  I  like  a
                                                                      That’s  also  true  of  his  lat-  one  of  those  dream  jobs.  drama.  I  like  being  angst-
                                                                      est,  “The  Hitman’s  Body-  I  always  liked  the  movies,  ridden sometimes. But most
                                                                      guard,” an R-rated action-   from the time I was a kid. I  of  the  time  I  want  to  go
                                                                      comedy  in  which  he  stars  did a lot of pretending with  to  the  movies  and  watch
                                                                      alongside  Ryan  Reynolds.  my  friends  and  I  did  plays  some  stuff  that  makes  me
                                                                      Throughout  hails  of  bullets  and  all  this  other  stuff.  It  go, ‘Oh man!’ I want to be
                                                                      and  high-speed  chases,  just kept going until I finally  leave  the  theater  going,
                                                                      the  two  trade  countless  reached the point where I  “That  was  awesome!  That
                                                                      foul-mouthed insults. Reyn-  figured it was a viable oc-  was  great!  Ahh!”  That’s
                                                                      olds, at one point, accuses  cupation to have. Nobody  why people go to the mov-
                                                                      Jackson of ruining the word  ever said, “You can be an  ies and I want to be part of
                                                                      “motherf-----”  —  a  trade-  actor.”  When  I  finally  de-  that. I’ve always wanted to
                                                                      mark  of  the  actor’s.  Jack-  cided I was going to do it, it  be  in  a  King  Kong  movie,
                                                                      son  also  recorded  a  blues  just became my obsession.  so  there  I  am,  standing  in
                                                                      song for the film, which, fit-  I  looked  at  Errol  Flynn  and  front of King Kong. Yeah, so
                                                                      tingly, opens with an exple-  John  Wayne  and  those  I  make  trivial  choices.  But
                                                                      tive.                        guys.  It  looked  like  fun,  it  should  be  that.  It  should
                                                                      Jackson recounted his love  swinging  from  ship  to  ship,  be  fun  to  do.  People  talk
                                                                      of  that  word  on  a  stop  in  sword fighting.          about,  “I  can’t  stand  to
                                                                      New  York  earlier  this  sum-  AP:  You  recently  narrat-  watch  myself  on  screen.”
                                                                      mer. New York is where the  ed  the  Oscar-nominated  Well, get another job! You
                                                                      68-year-old Jackson, a Ten-  James  Baldwin  documen-     expect people to pay $12
                                                                      nessee  native  and  gradu-  tary “I Am Not Your Negro.”  or  $15  to  go  and  see  you
                                                                      ate of Atlanta’s Morehouse  Baldwin  spoke  about  the  and you don’t want to see
                                                                      College, got his start in the-  effect  of  growing  up  see-  it? I don’t think so.
                                                                      ater. He’s looking for a play  ing only white faces on the  AP: You’ve played golf with
                                                                      now,  he  says,  except  that  screen.  Did  you  have  that  President  Trump  before.
                                                                      “every time I mention it, my  experience?                 What did you think of him?
                                                                      agent seems to find me an-   Jackson: I was growing up  Jackson:  I  didn’t  spend
                                                                      other movie.”                in  segregation,  so  I  didn’t  enough time around him to
                                                                      AP: You must be one of the  expect to go to the movies  decide if I really liked him or
                                                                      greatest cursers to ever live.  and  see  black  people  up  did not like him. q
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