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A30    PEOPLE & ARTS
            Saturday 16 September 2017
                                                                      Q&A: Del Toro on his festival



                                                                      sensation and love of monsters





                                                                      By JAKE COYLE                thing in this world is sincer-  that  has  an  enchantment
                                                                       AP Film Writer              ity.                         on me.
                                                                      TORONTO (AP) —               There  is  something  that  My  physique  may  not
                                                                       If the Toronto International  kind  of  touches  you.  It’s  prove  it  but  I’m  a  great
                                                                      Film Festival has proven one  like when you meet some-    swimmer and a great diver.
                                                                      thing, it’s that Guillermo del  one  who  just  exists,  who’s  I’ve been diving since I was
                                                                      Toro can work a room.        very  real  and  just  present.  a kid. I almost went into a
                                                                      At  the  premiere  of  his  fes-  The  movie  is  very  present,  competition. My family had
                                                                      tival  sensation  and  sure-  and it wears its heart on its  a  pool  and  I  spent  some-
            Guillermo del Toro kisses the Golden Lion for best film for ‘The
            Shape Of Water’ during the awards photo call at the 74th Venice   fire  Oscar  contender  “The  sleeve in the sense that it’s  times  entire  afternoons,
            Film Festival at the Venice Lido, Italy, Saturday, Sept. 9, 2017.  Shape  of  Water,”  the  unapologetically not a reg-  entire weeks almost all the
                                                                      good-humored      Mexican  ular movie.                    time  underwater.  Other
                                                                      director had the audience  AP: How did you fall in love  kids  dream  that  they  can
                                                                      of  the  Elgin  Theatre  in  his  with monsters?          fly.  My  recurring  dream  is
                                                                      thrall, both by the magic of  Del Toro: It happened when  that  I  can  breathe  under-
                                                                      his  monster  romance  and  I  was  a  young  kid.  Every  water.
                                                                      by his self-deprecating sin-  Sunday  in  my  hometown,  AP: Do you think the mov-
                                                                      cerity  discussing  the  film’s  channel  six  would  show  a  ies  could  use  more  magic
                                                                      political relevance (procla-  marathon of monster mov-    in them?
                                                                      mations to “make America  ies. So I saw “It Conquered  Del Toro: Hopefully the first
                                                                      great again,” he said, were  the  World,”  ‘’The  Bride  magic that it can invoke is
                                                                      a  “false  memory”  of  the  of  Frankenstein,”  ‘’Crea-  cinema. It’s a movie in love
                                                                      segregated  early  ‘60s  in  ture of the Black Lagoon,”  with  love  and  in  love  with
                                                                      which his film is set) as well  ‘’The  Incredible  Shrinking  cinema. It’s shot like a mu-
                                                                      as his own fondness for his  Man,” ‘’The Monolith Mon-    sical, the way the camera
                                                                      adopted home of Toronto.     sters.”  I  would  watch  “The  moves  in  a  very  classical
                                                                      “I  identify  with  Canada,”  Raven,”  ‘’The  Black  Cat,”  movie. It’s a love story be-
                                                                      said  Del  Toro,  whose  kind,  ‘’Body  Snatchers.”  It  was  tween  an  amphibian  man
                                                                      mischievous    eyes    are  every  Sunday.  I  would  go  and  a  woman,  shot  by
                                                                      framed by the small circles  to church and I would see  Douglas  Sirk  with  musical
                                                                      of  his  glasses  and  his  roly-  these  monsters.  They  be-  numbers  and  a  Cold  War
                                                                      poly  physique.  “I  identify  came  almost  an  iconog-  thriller.
                                                                      with Canadian bacon.”        raphy.  Frankenstein  to  me  AP:  You’ve  said  cinema
                                                                      “The  Shape  of  Water,”  is  a  messiah,  crucified  for  is  sustaining  for  you.  Like
                                                                      which  Fox  Searchlight  will  sins.  They  became  almost  which films?
                                                                      release  Dec.  8,  has  been  saintly pagan figures.      Del  Toro:  Capra  does  that
                                                                      an    undeniable    break-   AP:  Why  did  you  identify  for me. I share a spirit with
                                                                      out  on  the  festival  circuit,  with them?              him.  When  people  talk
                                                                      where it took the top prize  Del  Toro:  I  saw  I  felt  out  about Capra, a lot of them
                                                                      at  the  Venice  Film  Festival  of  place  since  I  was  very  talk  about  the  corny,  syr-
                                                                      over the weekend.            young.  I’m  talking  2,  3,  4  upy, happy parts. But most
                                                                      The  film,  which  stars  Sally  years  old.  I  saw  the  crea-  people forget that the rea-
                                                                      Hawkins as a mute woman  tures and I thought: I’m like  son those work is that Cap-
                                                                      who falls for a captured sea  that. I’m that.             ra, like Disney and Dickins,
                                                                      monster,  is  a  loving  tribute  One  Christmas,  I  got  a  goes  really  dark.  George
                                                                      to outsiders of all kinds — a  scar on my forehead and I  Bailey  running  through  the
                                                                      message that has been re-    didn’t want it to complete-  abandoned  town  where
                                                                      ceived by festival audienc-  ly  heal,  to  have  my  Fran-  no  one  remembers  him  is
                                                                      es as a vitally relevant one.  kenstein scar.             as close to Kafka and hor-
                                                                      Shortly  after  flying  back  to  When  the  performer  is  ror  as  you  can  get.  share
                                                                      Toronto, award in tow, Del  great — like in the cases of  that  attraction  to  combin-
                                                                      Toro sat down to discuss his  Boris  Karloff  who  brought  ing the sweet and the dark,
                                                                      abiding affections for mon-  so  much  vulnerability  to  the violent and the tender.
                                                                      sters, movies and water.     that  part  —  you  get  this  He  uplifts  my  spirits  every
                                                                      AP: Why do you think your  paradox that the thing you  time.  I  cannot  not  cry  on
                                                                      film is resonating as it is?  should  be  scared  off,  you  “Meet  John  Doe.”  I  can-
                                                                      Del  Toro:  For  the  last  few  find  compassion  and  love  not not cry on “Mr. Smith.”
                                                                      years  —  and  I  don’t  think  for.                      I  cannot  not  cry  on  “It’s  a
                                                                      it started two years ago —  And that’s essentially what  Wonderful  Life.”  It  breaks
                                                                      we’ve  seen  the  world  go-  I do.                       me.  I  start  weeping.  I  cry
                                                                      ing  in  the  wrong  swing  of  AP:  You  here  use  water  at my movie, every time. I
                                                                      the pendulum.                very   evocatively,   and  know how it ends.
                                                                      It causes such despair and  you’ve  compared  water,    I’ve  seen  it  185  times
                                                                      the heart of the movie is so  which can flow anywhere,  and  every  time  the  fi-
                                                                      utterly  sincere  that  some-  to love.                   nal  image  comes,  I’m
                                                                      times  the  most  shocking  Del  Toro:  It  is  an  element  overwhelmed.q
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