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                     Monday 16 March 2020
                                                                      Author Roth weighed in on


                                                                      'Plot Against America' TV series




                                                                      By LYNN ELBER                              understood that and, of course, we did."
                                                                      AP Television Writer                       Roth was insistent that the series capture
                                                                      LOS  ANGELES  (AP)  —  David  Simon,  the  Lindbergh's  achievement  —  his  unprece-
                                                                      creative force behind stellar TV including  dented solo flight from New York to Paris in
                                                                      "The Wire," "Show Me a Hero" and "Treme,"  1927 at age 25 — and the national admi-
                                                                      found himself in unfamiliar territory with his  ration and fame it earned him and which,
                                                                      latest series, HBO's "The Plot Against Amer-  in fiction, allows him to ascend to the U.S
                                                                      ica."                                      presidency.
                                                                      He'd developed books into shows before,  Simon  said  that  Roth  wanted  Lindbergh,
            This image released by HBO shows John Turturro in a scene from   nonfiction  works  that  demanded  adher-  who in life was anti-Semitic and opposed
            "The Plot Against America." The 6-part mini-series, based on the   ence to facts. But Simon didn't necessarily  war  against  Nazi  Germany,  to  be  por-
            novel by the late Philip Roth, premieres Monday, March 16.
                                                     Associated Press  feel liberated in adapting Philip Roth's 2004  trayed as the accomplished man he was.
                                                                      novel, a re-imagined history of World War  It's  the  fictional  Lindberg's  earned  good
                                                                      II-era America made fascist in the grasp of  will for his achievements that allows him to
                                                                      a real-life, wildly popular hero, the aviation  ascend to power in the novel, and Simon
                                                                      pioneer Charles Lindbergh.                 said  Roth  was  adamant  that  the  screen
                                                                      "There were things I thought that worked  depiction reflect that. It was important to
                                                                      as  a  novel  that  were  not  going  to  work  Roth that Lindbergh be made distinct from
                                                                      in  a  six-hour  miniseries,"  Simon  said.  He  President Donald Trump, according to Si-
                                                                      broached his concerns in a 2017 meeting  mon.
                                                                      with Roth, the Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist  "Mr. Roth, in his comments to me, found it
                                                                      who died in 2018 at age 85.                astonishing that Mr. Trump, being a real es-
                                                                      "I had an idea, but I didn't have the guts to  tate magnate, failed casino operator and
                                                                      venture it. I mean, he's in the canon, he's  not  possessed  of  any  particular  moment
                                                                      one of our great literary voices, and I'm a  of heroism or public service to the coun-
                                                                      TV  hack,"  said  a  self-deprecating  Simon.  try,  had  managed  to  achieve  the  same
                                                                      "And I'm asking to play with the end of a  standing. ... He wanted to make sure that
                                                                      novel he wrote. So I didn't have the cour-  we gave Lindbergh his due, that his novel
                                                                      age to say, 'What about this, what about  would be credible."
                                                                      that,' I just wanted to know if I had permis-  "We did," Simon said. "We went to the ef-
                                                                      sion to try."                              fort  to  establish  in  the  narrative  that  this
                                                                      The series debuts at 9 p.m. EDT Monday,  man became president because he was
                                                                      with Winona Ryder, Zoe Kazan, John Tur-    invested in real heroism."
                                                                      turro, Morgan Spector and Anthony Boyle  Roth made similar comments in interviews,
                                                                      in the cast.                               including one he gave a few months be-
                                                                      Simon interpreted "Roth's story and brought  fore his death.
                                                                      it to HBO with an urgency and relevance  When  Simon  is  asked  when  he  and  Roth
                                                                      that reflects not only the era Roth evoked  discussed "The Plot Against America," the
                                                                      but also our world today," said Len Amato,  query prompts an unrelated anecdote. It
                                                                      president of HBO films and miniseries.     was  fall  2017,  when  Simon  and  longtime
                                                                      Roth had detailed his caveats for the TV  writing  partner  Ed  Burns  were  starting  to
                                                                      drama  during  their  conversation,  Simon  develop scripts for the series, and the day
                                                                      said. The novelist, who relied on his family  after the Nobel Prize for literature was an-
                                                                      life in depicting Jewish Americans caught  nounced.  Roth  was  again  bypassed,  this
                                                                      in a pro-Nazi Germany, anti-Semitic politi-  time in favor of "The Remains of the Day"
                                                                      cal wave led by Lindbergh, asked that the  author Kazuo Ishiguro. In 2016, the surprise
                                                                      series'  characters  be  differentiated  from  recipient  was  a  certain  legendary  musi-
                                                                      those in the book.                         cian.
                                                                      "He  wanted  to  us  to  change  the  name  "I  couldn't  resist,"  Simon  said.  "I  made  a
                                                                      from Roth to Levin, because while he had  joke  about,  'What's  this  guy  doing  with
                                                                      used his family and himself for the narra-  your  prize?'  and  he  replied,  very  quickly,
                                                                      tive, once actors are cast and other writ-  'At  least  they  didn't  give  it  to  Peter,  Paul
                                                                      ers are coming in with dialogue, it's no lon-  and Mary.' I think he was still mad about
                                                                      ger exactly pristine to what he imagined,"  Bob Dylan the year before."
                                                                      Simon said. "He wanted a little bit of dis-  He also recalled Roth re-reading the nov-
                                                                      tance for his family."                     el's  ending,  the  section  that  Simon  was
                                                                      Roth  also  requested  that  TV  miniseries  grappling  with,  and  remaining  silent  for
                                                                      make clear that the Jewish characters at  several minutes.
                                                                      its center and the wider Jewish community  "'Finally,  he  just  closed  the  book  and
                                                                      were assimilated Americans and "becom-     looked at me and said, 'Well, it's your prob-
                                                                      ing  more  American  with  every  passing  lem now."q
                                                                      minute,"  Simon  said.  "So  that  the  fraudu-
                                                                      lent issue that's always offered in anti-im-
                                                                      migrant campaigns, that these people are
                                                                      not Americans like you or I. That they won't
                                                                      become Americans if they're not learning
                                                                      the language fast enough. That their tradi-
                                                                      tions are such that we can question their
                                                                      loyalty. He wanted to make clear that we
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