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                                                                                     PEOPLE & ARTS Saturday 22 September 2018

            Quincy Jones at 85: ‘I’m too old to be full of it’





            This Sept. 7, 2018 photo
            By JAKE COYLE
            Associated Press
            TORONTO  (AP)  —  Quincy
            Jones holds out his hands.
            Like Jones, an easy racon-
            teur, they tell stories. There’s
            a  small  scar  from  when
            he, as a youngster in 1930s
            Chicago,  accidently  wan-
            dered into a gang’s territo-
            ry. “They nailed my hand to
            a fence with a switchblade,
            man,” he says. Jones points
            to a ring on his right pinkie
            left to him by Frank Sinatra,
            bearing  the  singer’s  family
            crest. It has stayed lodged
            on his finger for years just at
            it did on Sinatra’s.
            “The  friendship  was  so
            strong.  You  can’t  describe
            it. We loved to party togeth-
            er,  make  music  together,”
            says Jones, smiling. “I’d tell
            (drummer)  Sonny  Payne:
            ‘Let’s  get  the  back  beat
            a  little  stronger,’  because
            Frank was only lifting his feet
            about  a  foot,”  says  Jones,
            stomping his foot to a beat.   shows music producer Quincy Jones, the subject of the Netflix documentary film “Quincy,” posing for a portrait at the Shangri-La
            “Let’s  get  a  foot  and  a   Hotel during the Toronto Film Festival in Toronto.
            half.” For six decades Jones                                                                                                    Associated Press
            has  been  the  foot-stomp-  giving up drinking two and  “Michael  was  one  patient  leaping  from  the  experi-   down  (she  was  institution-
            ing  back  beat  to  a  stag-  a half years ago, he says, “I  and  humble  human  being  ence  of  being  in  the  con-  alized  for  schizophrenia)
            gering  breadth  of  Ameri-  feel like I’m 19.”           when it came to learning,”  trol  room  for  Miles  Davis’  remains  perhaps  the  most
            can music. His hands have  And he has  lost little  of his  he  adds.  “His  idols  were  “Kind  of  Blue”  sessions  to  pivotal  moment  in  his  life.
            been over everything. From  curiosity  or  verve.  Jones  James  Brown,  Sammy  Da-    his  celestial  twin,  Michael  It’s impossible not to return
            Ella Fitzgerald to Frank Sina-  made headlines last winter  vis, Fred Astaire, Gene Kel-  Caine  (they  were  born  on  to  that  incident  and  his
            tra, Ray Charles to Michael  for  a  pair  of  candid  inter-  ly.  I  saw  him  copying  their  the  same  day  in  1933),  to  hardscrabble   childhood
            Jackson, “Roots” to “In the  views in which he discussed,  things.”  And  while  he  ap-  when  record  executives  in  Chicago  when  trying  to
            Heat of the Night,” Jones —  among  other  things,  what  plauds  contemporary  acts  dubbed him “too jazzy” to  answer where all the music
            a  trumpeter,  pianist,  com-  he considered the Beatles’  like  Chance  the  Rapper  produce Marvin Gaye.          came  from  in  Jones.  Such
            poser,  arranger,  producer  weak  musicianship  and  and Kendrick Lamar, he be-       “He  is  like  a  giant  beating  beginnings  would  have
            —  is  the  great  chameleon  dating  Ivanka  Trump.  He  lieves there are fewer great  heart.  That’s  what  makes  made others more cynical.
            of  20th  century  music.  He  later apologized but didn’t  songs  today.  A  master  of  him a great dad and that’s  “You  can’t  afford  to  get
            has  recorded  2,900  songs,  take back any of his tales.  songcraft,  Jones  sees  the  what  makes  him  a  great  angry,  man,”  says  Jones.
            300 albums and 51 film and  “I’m too old to be full of it,”  art form diminishing. “What  musician,”  says  Rashida,  “Remember  Mark  Twain’s
            TV  scores.  He  has  been  Jones chuckles.               I’m  missing  the  most  is  the  the  actress-filmmaker  who  words:  Anger  is  an  acid
            79  times  nominated  for  a  And  while  Jones  was  in  a  songs,”  says  Jones.  “There  co-directed  “Quincy”  with  which  does  more  harm
            Grammy,  winning  27.  And  more  relaxed  mood  in  To-  are beats and rhymes and  Alan  Hicks.  “He’s  got  pain  to  the  vessel  in  which  it’s
            he  has  produced  seven  ronto,  he  was  happy  to  hooks but that’s not a song,  like  all  of  us.  His  stuff  with  stored  than  anything  on
            kids, one of whom — Rashi-   contradict  reports  of  the  I’m sorry.”                 his mom is really deep. It’s  which  it’s  poured.  I  said
            da Jones — has chronicled  Eagles’ “Their Greatest Hits  But  to  give  the  impres-   still fresh and it still hurts him.  that to myself when Donald
            him  in  the  new  documen-  1971-1975”  passing  Jack-   sion  that  Jones  has  grown  But he made a decision. He  Trump won. Are you happy
            tary, “Quincy.”              son’s “Thriller” (which Jones  quarrelsome in his old age  wakes up every day and he  with  our  president?  We’ll
            “When I look at it now, I’m  produced)  as  the  all-time  would  do  a  great  injustice  has mantras that he says to  live through it. We’ll learn.”
            overwhelmed,”  Jones  said  best-selling  album.  “We  to his playful inquisitiveness  stay  positive.”  Jones  calls  Another  foundational  mo-
            in  an  interview  shortly  be-  had  150  million,  man,”  he  or  his  undiminished  work  them affirmations.     ment from his youth in when
            fore  “Quincy”  premiered  says, alluding to worldwide  ethic.    “Quincy,”    which  “I’ve  always  done  that.  I  Jones, at 14, was a passen-
            at the Toronto International  sales. “That’s bull----.”   spans  Jones’  mammoth  guess  that’s  in  place  of  a  ger in a fatal car accident.
            Film Festival. “To have your  Jones,  who  in  2017  won  a  life,  captures  the  still-very-  mother.  I  lost  my  mother  He never learned to drive.
            life  jump  back  at  you  on  suit against the Jackson es-  active  Jones  producing  a  when  I  was  seven.  They  “I took a driving lesson. My
            the screen — wooo!”          tate  over  unpaid  royalties,  Kennedy  Center  show  for  took  her  away  in  a  strait-  teacher  —  he  was  from
            “Quincy,” which will debut  also  continued  his  critique  the  Smithsonian’s  National  jacket.  That  did  not  make  Yugoslavia  —  said,  ‘Man,
            on Netflix and in select the-  of the pop star’s penchant  Museum  of  African  Ameri-  our lives very nice,” he says.  I’m  giving  you  your  mon-
            aters  Friday,  is  an  intimate  for  lifting  songs  or  not  ac-  can History.      “My brother could not deal  ey  back.  We  don’t  need
            portrait  of  a  hard-to-sum-  curately  crediting  collabo-  Jones  is  both  tireless  and  with it. He died in 1998, my  another  maniac  on  the
            marize  legend.  He’s  now  rators.  “It’s  in  the  music.  tirelessly  upbeat.  And  his  younger brother. It was seri-  road,’” recalls Jones. “I was
            85 and has been through a  ‘Smooth      Criminal,’   that  conversation  zig-zags  as  ous, man.”                   trying to stop on the down-
            few health scares. But after  says it,” says Jones.       much  as  his  career  has,  Jones’   mother’s   break-   beats at the stop lights.”q
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