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PEOPLE & ARTS Thursday 9 May 2019
Springsteen, Scorsese talk Catholicism, films and creativity

LOS ANGELES (AP) — With — and that's what would
a friendship going back to eventually become the
a fateful meeting at The Broadway show and the
Roxy in 1975, Bruce Spring- film.
steen and Martin Scorsese As with Scorsese's "The Last
shared the stage in Los An- Waltz," ''Springsteen on
geles Sunday night for a Broadway" does not cut
wide-ranging conversation away to the audience. The
about everything from their director, Thom Zimny, didn't
Catholic upbringings and even want one at first, but
maturing faith to Flannery Springsteen protested.
O'Connor, concert docu- "I said, 'Well who's going
mentaries and the role of to laugh at my jokes?' " he
an audience. said.
The Netflix-hosted event They compromised on half
was in support of the Em- of an audience.
mys campaign for his one- "(We) didn't want to tele-
man show "Springsteen on graph to the viewer what
Broadway" at the stream- you're supposed to feel,"
ing service's FYSEE (a riff on Springsteen said.
"for your consideration") The film was taped across
space in the heart of Hol- two nights, the first night of
lywood. In this Monday, Nov. 5, 2018, file photo, Bruce Springsteen performs at the 12th annual Stand Up which Springsteen admit-
An earnest Springsteen For Heroes benefit concert at the Hulu Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York. ted he botched because
laughed at himself as he Associated Press he was on stage, "Thinking
prepared to close out the about what I was doing ...
evening and charm the tion, damnation, all the ters to The Boss) and Spring- diences are often looking When you're too complete-
crowd with an acoustic Martin Scorsese films. ... As steen said he's always for answers, but the art ly self-conscious you're not
performance of "Dancing I got older I stopped fight- found that, "the darkness he goes back is the kind in it."
in the Dark" that he was ing against it. Now I draw is more interesting than the that doesn't provide them, And he was striving for De
"here today begging com- on it and enjoy it. There's light." He connected it to which they both found simi- Niro's "two-hour face," or,
plete strangers for votes." no greater well to draw on other artists he finds inter- lar to how they experience something that would keep
But what better way to do than myths of Catholicism. esting, from Hank William, faith as they mature. the audience interested
so than with a nostalgic Everything is in there." to Bob Dylan and Robert The two eventually got even though at the heart
performance and a heart- He said "Mean Streets" in De Niro, who he said has a around to discussing of it, it's just, "One old guy
felt chat about creativity particular was on point for "two-hour face." "Springsteen on Broad- and an acoustic guitar."
and faith with one of the "An altar boy like myself." "It's, 'What's bothering that way," which was born by He also used monologues
greatest living filmmakers. Scorsese responded that guy? Something is bother- accident, after President and stories to help contex-
And they didn't waste time even his upcoming Netflix ing that guy,' " Springsteen Barack Obama asked him tualize the songs that the
getting to the heavy stuff. film, "The Irishman," deals said. "Those are the things to play at the White House world knows so well already
"All my work was informed with the same thing, "Trust, that keep us watching. in the last few weeks of his and "give them renewed
by my years in Catholic loyalty, betrayal and faith." That's why you can watch administration. Springsteen meaning."
school," Springsteen said The two said they both find Bob De Niro's face for two decided to combine per- "As the songs come out of
to the intimate crowd of inspiration in the stories of hours, not 15 minutes. It formances with storytelling the monologues it's as if
Emmy voters and press at Flannery O'Connor (Scors- never gives up its secrets." — he'd just written a mem- you've never heard them
the start. "All that redemp- ese recommended her let- Scorsese added that au- oir after all and it was fresh before," Scorsese said.q

Musician Ani DiFranco's memoir is raw and powerful

By RAGAN CLARK ed her own record label about how she got to where that is brave_she recogniz-
Ani DiFranco, "No Walls and and has a career spanning she is_from creating her first es the imperfect moments
the Recurring Dream" (Vi- over 20 albums_know she is record to meeting Prince in her existence just as she
king) not one to shy away from and recording in his home. acknowledges her own tri-
Ani DiFranco has spent her opinions. Readers who are already umphs. The honesty of her
decades challenging the It is not uncommon when DiFranco fans are offered introspection encourages
status quo, standing up for listening to her work to a window through which the reader to look internally
what she believes and cre- hear a verse that speaks to better understand her as well. "Whatever the thing
ating honest, raw music. out against patriarchy, the music (just in case you've is that you are resisting the
Her memoir is an extension death penalty or the gov- ever wondered about the most, whatever thing will
of these passions. Looking ernment's imperialism. So it story behind "Untouchable be the most painful, that is
at her lyrics over the years, comes as no surprise that in Face"). She gives you the the thing you must do," she
it has always been clear: her memoir, DiFranco does rich context of her past writes.
She cherishes the written not hold back. and passions that have To her credit, DiFranco
word. In the pages of her "No Walls and the Recurring culminated in emotional meets the reader where
memoir, "No Walls and the Dream," is unapologetic, verses and honest storytell- she or he is. Yes, she has
Recurring Dream," she car- steadfast and vulnerable. ing through the years. The strong opinions, but she This cover image released
ries on this love affair. It's as if DiFranco has invit- book also stands alone, for makes it clear from the on- by Viking shows "No Walls
Those familiar with the work ed you into the living room those who haven't before set that she is not just some- and the Recurring Dream," a
of DiFranco_a Grammy of her New Orleans home encountered DiFranco. one who talks; she is also memoir by Ani DiFranco.
Award-winner who found- to have a long discussion She is vulnerable in a way someone who listens. q Associated Press