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BUSINESS                 Tuesday 29 November 2016
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                     The Trump effect on environmental investing: Positive?


            STAN CHOE                                                                              I  don’t  think  ESG  investing  abling  of  progress  forward
            AP Business Writer                                                                     is  going  to  decrease,  be-  that there’s a sense that in-
            NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  Don-                                                               cause  most  companies  vestment won’t be enough.
            ald Trump’s move into the                                                              and  investors  still  see  a  lot  Fatalism could do it.
            White  House  could  drive                                                             of risk around environmen-   A  rollback  in  the  creation
            even more dollars into the                                                             tal issues.                  of new products could also
            already hot field of sustain-                                                          Now,  we’re  getting  put  in  do it, where you’re offering
            able investing. Wait, what?                                                            a defensive crouch, which  fewer funds. But I don’t see
            Trump  has  called  climate                                                            is  OK.  If  you’re  going  to  those  things  happening.  I
            change a hoax, said he’d                                                               push  back  on  the  limited  see increasing interest.
            like to pull out of the Paris                                                          amount  we’ve  been  able
            Agreement      on   global                                                             to do on climate, including  Q: US SIF counted more than
            warming  and  suggested                                                                the Paris Agreement, we’re  1,000  ESG  mutual  funds,
            rolling  back  the  carbon-                                                            going to push back on that  ETFs  and  other  kinds  of
            cutting Clean Power Plan.                                                              pushback.                    funds in existence, up from
            Isn’t  his  victory  a  sign  that                                                     We’re  going  to  see  sus-  only about 200 in 2001. Usu-
            Americans don’t believe in                                                             tainable  investors  pushing  ally,  when  that  many  new
            climate change?                                                                        companies on this.           products are chasing after
            Regardless  of  what  was                                                                                           customers,  some  of  them
            said on the campaign trail,                                                            Q:  And  people  won’t  see  turn out to be shoddy.
            a growing number of inves-                                                             less of an incentive to invest  A:  I  think  there  are  defi-
            tors do care about the en-                                                             in a sustainable fund given  nitely  money  managers
            vironment,  says  Lisa  Woll,                                                          the  change  in  the  White  who  have  been  drawn  to
            chief executive of US SIF, a                                                           House?                       the field because they see
            trade  group  whose  mem-                                                              A:  There’s  very  little  the  they  can  get  clients.  They
            bership  includes  mutual-                                                             government has done that  love that it makes their cli-
            fund  companies,  pension                                                              said,  ‘If  you  invest  in  an  ents  stickier.  They  love  be-
            funds  and  others  interest-                                                          ESG  fund,  we’re  going  to  ing able to talk to an inves-
            ed in sustainable investing.                                                           give you a tax deduction.’  tor about what their values
            Those investors are putting                                                            There hasn’t been that sort  and  their  passions  and
            more  money  into  mutu-                                                               of  carrot  provided  to  do  hopes  are  for  that  money.
            al funds and other money                                                               this  work.  The  carrot  has  I  think  there’s  something
            managers  who  take  not                                                               been recognizing that it’s a  about that that’s very excit-
            only  the  environment  but   This photo provided by US SIF shows Lisa Woll, CEO of sustain-  better way to invest and a  ing around people.
            also social and corporate-   able-investing group US SIF. Woll said Donald Trump’s election   better way to manage risk.  Because  there’s  been  so
            governance issues into ac-   could actually lead to more demand for investments that take   For religious investors, it’s a  much interest in this, you’re
                                         an environmental or sustainable approach.
            count when making invest-                                 (Adrian Nastase/US SIF via AP)  values-based   approach.  increasingly having money
            ments,  a  so-called  “ESG”                                                            None of those go away.       managers  say  that  they
            approach.                    drop-off  in  sustainable  in-  companies,  are  increas-                              do  ESG  investing,  but  they
            More than $8.7 trillion is in-  vestment?                 ingly  concerned  about      Q:  So,  if  not  the  election,  aren’t  identifying  what  cri-
            vested with managers who     A: No, I don’t, because the  climate. There are a lot of   what  could  trip  up  the  teria  they’re  utilizing  to  do
            consider    environmental,   reality is no one’s going to  people  involved  in  Earth   growing  demand  for  sus-  that.
            social  and  governance  is-  be  less  concerned  about  Day  and  environmental  is-  tainable investing? Is it the  The  reality  is  you  can  only
            sues,  according  to  a  sur-  climate.  They’ll  perhaps  sues. Many of those people   higher costs?               hold  that  position  for  so
            vey published this week by   be more concerned, if the  on  the  street  protesting    A:  Only  sometimes  are  long, and then you’ve got
            US SIF. That’s up 33 percent   incoming   administration  now,  part  of  that  is  about   there  higher  costs.  There  to  be  able  to  deliver  both
            since 2014.                  actually  does  stand  by  its  climate.                  are a lot of funds that are  performance  and  expec-
            Woll recently talked about   rhetoric around pulling out                               not higher cost. It depends  tations  around  your  evalu-
            ESG  investing,  the  elec-  of Paris and rolling back the  Q: But maybe that segment   on  how  much  shareholder  ations of ESG issues.
            tion’s impact on the grow-   Clean  Power  Plan,  which  of the population is smaller   engagement  they’re  do-
            ing  field  and  some  of  the   is  one  of  the  only  things  than  everyone  thought.   ing.  In  some  cases,  you  Q:  Do  you  think  any  funds
            risks inherent in investing in   President  Obama  could  The  segment  of  Clinton    want  to  pay  for  that  extra  are  lying?  Looking  to  cash
            such  a  hot  area.  Answers   get  done  on  climate  dur-  voters was certainly smaller   level  of  scrutiny  that  goes  in on a fad by calling them-
            have been edited for clar-   ing his presidency because  than pollsters thought.       on.                          selves  sustainable  without
            ity and length.              he  couldn’t  get  anything  A: That might be. But I really   What  could  trip  it  up  is  a  actually  considering  com-
                                         through Congress.            do believe that the march    sense that what is happen-   panies’  environmental,  so-
            Q:  You  really  don’t  think   Companies,  and  the  peo-  to  a  lower-carbon  econ-  ing  at  the  national  level  is  cial  and  governance  im-
            the  election  will  mean  a   ple  who  invest  in  those  omy  has  already  started.   so  catastrophic  or  un-en-  pacts? q
                  Global economic agency urges more infrastructure spending



            PARIS  (AP)  —  An  interna-  an  upbeat  note  in  its  lat-  omy may be at a point of  of  low  rates.  Gurria  noted  an  increase  in  economic
            tional  economic  agency  est  world  economic  out-      inflection,”  as  low  interest  that  markets  have  rallied  activity,” he said.
            said Monday that the kind  look Monday, thanks in part  rates  give  governments  on Trump’s promises to cut  The         OECD    raised   U.S.
            of  infrastructure  spending  to  stimulus  efforts  planned  more freedom to lower tax-  taxes  and  increasing  infra-  growth  forecasts  slightly
            promised by U.S. President-  in  the  U.S.  and  China.  The  es and spend on infrastruc-  structure  investments,  but  to  2.3  percent  for  2017,
            elect  Donald  Trump  could  OECD  raised  its  forecasts  ture and education, OECD  said it remains unclear how  and  predicted  3  percent
            boost  global  growth,  but  for  global  growth  to  3.3  chief Angel Gurria said.    many  of  those  pledges  growth  in  2018  based  on
            warned  that  protectionist  percent  for  next  year,  up  The  Paris-based  intergov-  Trump can or will fulfill.  “an assumed easing of fis-
            tendencies hurt prosperity.  from  3.2  percent  in  its  last  ernmental agency encour-  “There  is  an  expectation  cal policy.” The forecast for
            The  Organization  for  Eco-  outlook.  After  years  of  low  aged  governments  such  that  if  this  mix  is  actually  eurozone growth next year
            nomic  Cooperation  and  growth, “there is reason to  as  Germany  to  take  more  practiced, if it happens, if it  was also shifted upward to
            Development  overall  hit  hope that the global econ-     advantage  of  this  window  becomes real, there will be  1.6 percent.q
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