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        YB: I already partly alluded to that previously - most of the

        CFOs and companies have done their homework recently      M.M.
        and it is difficult to foresee similar type of new issuance   12503894
        for the coming years. The private loan market has also re-
        opened  and  has  been  attracting  EHY  companies  back
        whilst M&A has mostly been a US story with the exception
        of large cap HY corporates in Europe. We do expect the
        market to stabilise around those lines - the early 2010s
        growth days are past!

        MM:  In  2018 credit  investors will  be assessing  how  the
        bond  market  reacts  to  the  likely  reduction  in  the  ECB’s
        public sector’s asset-purchase programme. What effect do
        you believe this will have on European high yield debt in
        tandem with an anticipated increase in UK interest rates
        this year?

        YB: Historically HY markets have been fairly immune to
        change in interest rates due to the credit spread cushion
        and  relatively  low  duration  compared  to  investment
        grade. Such a picture has somewhat been altered by the
        relentless spread-tightening observed but, with an option
        adjusted spread over 300bps, there is still some room and
        our  asset  class  remain  low  in  duration  so  I  do  expect
        subdued  reaction  from  my  market.  On  the  flip  side,
        volatility  in  fixed  income  has  risen  and  any  substantial
        shifts in macro or geopolitical events will have an impact
        on the asset class.

        MM: Finally, Yves, given the consistent weak performance
        of USD, a hike in interest rates by the FED becomes more
        likely. If the ECB were to consider playing catch-up with the
        FED and actually raise interest rates, are you concerned
        that there will be a sell-off of fixed income which would hit
        high yield hard?

        YB: No - I think even with a more hawkish attitude from
        the FED, the ECB has really learnt both from the “temper
        tantrum” crisis and also its own mistakes. Mario Draghi
        has  been  more  cautious  in  preparing  the  fixed  income
        market. A European interest rate hike cycle will ultimately
        come but the ECB needs to reach its targets on growth
        and inflation first to be able to justify it - unlikely to be in
        2018 in my view.
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