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78                Hon. Paul Hellyer on ‘X’ Zone Hot Seat





          Rob McConnell interviews

                the Honorable Paul

           Hellyer, former Canadian

            Minister of Defense and

             Deputy Prime Minister





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          But they didn’t pay mmm…they haven’t had a
          heavy traffic until just after the first atomic
          bomb was put off at White Sands, in the U.S.,
          and uh, and all of a sudden they started taking an
          interest in what we were doing down here and I
          have personified it, like they have come to the
          conclusion that, “the children,” that’s us, “are
          playing with matches.”  And now have, what
          we’ve never had before, and that is the abilities
          to destroy our planet and to make it
          uninhabitable for human species, the human
          species. And it could, it could happen. Well the
          day, when the  Americans really got excited
          about what was going on, sort of dates from    them in a 10 hour show but, there are so many           RM: …in your tenure A Minister of
          Roswell in July of 1947…there were actually    things happening and fortunately we’re going to  Defence, were you ever briefed by the high
          two crashes there, um, the same day, but they  have a lot of experts there, who, will each one  ranking members of the Canadian Military or
          weren’t discovered on the same day and uh,     cover a little bit of the puzzle, and if you want to  the Canadian  Armed Forces that there was
          what with the one that was first made public, and  find out for yourself and become one of the  UFO activity over Canada?
          the only one for a while, was it um, the base  people that’s in the loop and knows what’s going        HPH: Not briefed, no. I had sightings,
          commander at the Roswell um, Army Air Base     on instead of just imagining, or going strictly on  reports. I knew, I knew they were flying over
          as it was then, um, put out a press release,   science fiction, come to the show and uh, and    Canada, at least…
          through his press officer, saying that they had  listen to the people that are speaking there,         RM:  Were these reports military
          recovered as disc.  And uh, a few, that was    because it takes time. Going, two years ago this  reports or civilian reports?
          carried in the local papers but the, then his boss,  month, um, I was part of the um, Citizens         HPH: Well, they were collected by
          Brigadier General Roger Ramey, a few hours     Disclosure Hearing in  Washington, where         the military and handed to me as a report and
          later put out another press release uh, and said  Stephen Bassett put together a panel of six   about 80% of the sightings were… um, judged
          “no, it wasn’t a disc it was a [?] target apparatus  former congress people who, all of whom were  to be natural phenomenon and the other 15 -
          held aloft by neoprene balloons. And this was  skeptics and they came and acted like they were  20% were genuinely unknown, and that’s
          the story that was carried in the eastern press…  a congressional panel and uh, and Steve 44    about the same percentage that the, that the
          the New York Times and the major papers in the  witnesses who all gave testimony under oath,    British had and Nick Pope was one of the first
          east. And, of course, the first, the first one that  just as if they were talking to a genuine  people I talked to after I went public, uh, 10
          was put out was the truth, the second one was an  congressional committee. It took us 5 days to  years ago and he was in charge of the UFO
          absolute lie, and the United States government  convince the last skeptic and, and this goes to  Desk at the Department of Defence in the UK
          has not told the truth at any time in those 68  show you how deep the naivety is, which going   and he said they were very similar proportions
          years from then until now. And they’re still not.  back to my book again was one of the reasons  that they had that we had. I was too busy, as
          And their just absolutely [?] and their worse than  that I said, you know, somebody has to get some  you said, unifying the Canadian Armed Forces
          that, they’re still putting out disinformation and  of this stuff in the public domain. I was the last  to really be concerned about that subject at
          misinformation and it will just not do as far as  speaker that day, and I only answered a couple  that time. About all I really, really did during
          I’m concerned because there’s too much         of questions for The Chair who happened to be    that period was to, was to dedicate the world’s
          involved, too much at stake. How many billions  the holdout and he wanted to know where some    first flying saucer landing pad in a little
          have been spent on back engineering, uh, the   of the places where the star visitors came from,  bilingual town in northern Alberta called St.
          technology? What do they plan to do with it?   so I gave him 4 or 5 from my earlier book, um,   Pauls…
          Um, is it going…is it being used positively and  “Light At  The End Of  The  Tunnel,” and then         RM: Right.
          contractedly or, or are there negative plans that  went on to discuss  The Cabal and who was           HPH: …and it’s still standing as sort
          might have a very serious, uh, negative        running the United States at that…and that little  of a welcoming mat for anybody that uh,
          consequence for the, the human species. These  funny two minute clip went viral because there   would uh, be interested…I personally if I were
          are all things that we should be talking about and  was such a thirst for more knowledge on the  a saucer pilot wouldn’t want to land on it but
          should know about and one of the reasons to    subject, the thirst is still there and it’s got, we’ve  it’s a good, it’s a good thing to have for, for
          give Alien Cosmic Expo a plug, there’s going to  just got to try and quench some of it by getting  welcoming those who come in peace and uh,
          be a lot of people there that know a lot about  more information out, and uh, but it’s, starting,  and co-operation.
          various aspects of these things that the       it’s starting. I was on a cross country tour            RM: Sitting back these years later Sir,
          government is keeping secret… the U.S.         recently where we, we actually got 4 or 5 articles  looking at the days that you were Minister of
          government, Canadian government, Russian       in the main line press…believe me, that was a    Defence, doe it not boggle your imagination
          government, Chinese government, but the U.S.   break through…                                   that if these UFOs were so active and if the
          is the lead outfit in this show, and, and until they   RM: Let me ask you something Sir, let    United States did have this information, you,
          start telling the truth....   I don’t know whether  me as you something.                        as the Minister of Defence for Canada were
          the others will or not, but somebody has got to        HPH: Yaow.                               not made aware of this? What does this tell us
          prod them to the point where they start telling        RM: 1963 you became the Minister of      about the communication between the United
          the truth because time is running out and there’s,  Defence under Prime Minister Lester B Pearson.  States and Canada?
          there’s so many things happening, and you can’t  Am I correct?
          cover them in an hour show, you couldn’t cover         HPH: Correct. Yes.                                            (Continued on Page 79)
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