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64 KNOWING THE TRUTH

The next day the discussion continues at the dining table.

AHMED: I thought about it all night but there's still a question I can't
answer. Everything is perceived in the brain but there must be a
corresponding reality to these things outside that have the same form to
others that I see. If this weren't so, could I be speaking with you? How
could you understand what I'm saying? Other people are here with me.
We speak the same language and share the same tastes. For example, the
lemon on the salad was sour to us all. Outside ourselves, there's a taste of
a lemon that we all share. Or, when I go to a factory, workers are working
there and the products they produce are sold. Although I have nothing to
do with it, this world exists outside. Is that right?

MURAD: Ahmed, it's good that you asked that. It gives us the
opportunity to remind ourselves of what we talked about yesterday. First
of all it should be noted that we don't claim that there is no matter
outside. We say that we can never have direct experience with the original
of the matter which Allah creates. That is to say, we will never know the
actual being of this dinner table, these dishes, forks, glasses, bread and
soup. We will always be seated in the table inside our brain, eat the dishes
that are in our brain and chat on the table inside our brain.
Now, let's start from the beginning and go step by step. Yesterday
we demonstrated in a scientific way that every kind of image, sound,
smell and taste, and all kinds of senses that we call the world is an
impression in the brain. You accepted this didn't you?

AHMED: I did.

MURAD: Then, where do you see me?

AHMED: In my brain.

MURAD: Where do you hear my voice?

AHMED: In my brain.