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of fine-tuning more of the acoustic side of me, which I hadn't really done a huge amount of. I've
done a little bit here and there but not nearly as much as I have done in the last year. It was almost
kind of forced upon me, but it was good.

BiTS: Tell me how badly COVID has affected both you and, I guess, both the bands that you're
playing with?

ML: Well, put it this way, the last gig that Catfish have done was over a year ago. It was March 8th,
I want to say, was the last Catfish gig we did. Yeah, last March, the beginning of last March was the
last Catfish gig we did aside from the live stream that we did where we got the live album and a live
feed done. As far as a gig in front of people, a ticketed event, things like that, it's been over a year.

With The Revenant Ones, we managed to squeeze in a gig when lockdown lifted in October. That
one has been slightly less time but still a long time since we've done a gig and then lockdown came
back in again, almost the next day actually, I think it was, it was just we managed to squeeze it in
just before everything shut down again. Yeah, on the gig front, it's been awful. It's been terrible.

BiTS: Did you have a lot of gigs ripped away from underneath you?

ML: Yeah, I think we had about 150 gigs that
were lined up in that time.

BiTS: As many as that, wow!

ML: That's a normal kind of number that we get
in a year, or at least in the time it's been. Yeah, I
haven't done any with Catfish and then we had
that one with The Revenant Ones, yeah so to go

from 150, and actually we probably did about
200 because before everything locked down,
probably not that many, so between 150 and
200, somewhere in between there. So to have
150 of those ripped out from under our feet was
interesting.

BiTS: Are they starting to come back? I see
people have actually started to announce gigs in
various places.

ML: They're coming back in essence. It's still
quite hopeful and it's looking like they will. On a good wind, and with the vaccine and the roll-out
of that happening really well and it's optimistic in a way and in a good way. I'm not saying like

they're being optimistic about it. I'm saying it's good to be optimistic about it because it will be
good to get back to it, but not for a few months still, I don't think. At least not until the vaccine gets
rolled out and everyone who is going to take it has taken it and it's still a long way off from being
anywhere near normal, but I'm certain that socially distanced gigs will start happening again
probably within the next few months and then hopefully, like I said, on a good wind by at least the
time the year is out, we'll be back to some form of normal. It's like the whole thing of you want to
prepare, so we book the gigs, and we want to prepare, but we always say, on a good wind this will

happen, so obviously if things change.

BiTS: Fingers crossed. I hope it works out for you.