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clubs and acoustic gigs and kind of just getting back into it. I realised the first time I hugged
    somebody at a gig, it wasn’t until I got home that night that I thought, oh crumbs, I’ve hugged
    about 30 people tonight. Lord, am I okay? Yikes! And I was okay, but I think we do still think
    gosh, you know, we’ve still got to be careful, but I’ve been gigging since January, which has
    been fab and really great.

    BiTS:  There are some people who have had a bit of a problem getting in front of an audience
    again, I guess.

    EW: Yes, I understand that people probably feel anxious. I suppose it’s your individual take,
                                                                                    isn’t it, really. I can’t
                                                                                    criticise them for that and
                                                                                    it’s almost a leap of faith.
                                                                                    Do you try it or not and
                                                                                    obviously it’s depending on
                                                                                    what your health
                                                                                    conditions are? You’ve just
                                                                                    got to do your best, really.

                                                                                    BiTS:  I’m not going to take

                                                                                    any more of your time,
                                                                                    Emma. Thank you very
                                                                                    much indeed for talking to
                                                                                    me. I’ve just got one other
                                                                                    comment that I want to
                                                                                    make and that is I hope
                                                                                    your mum enjoys the
                                                                                    records from Big Daddy
    Wilson in the future, you told me when she heard the name on my show she laughed out loud!

    EW:  [Laughing] Definitely. Oh, Ian, of course. Yes. We’ve had a great chat. Thank you for all
    your support and I owe you a hug.

    BiTS:  Thank you very much. COVID permitting.

    EW:  Absolutely. A virtual hug coming to you, and I hope you enjoy playing the record.

    BiTS:  I shall indeed. I’ve played a couple of tracks already. Now I’ve chatted to you, I shall get
    some more.

    EW: Thank you, Ian.

    BiTS:  Thanks very much indeed for talking to me, Emma. Bye.

    EW: It’s always a pleasure, Ian. Bye. Thank you.

    BiTS:  Bye.
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