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Our Spring Workshop Webinar Series, consists of 2
separate 4-hour courses, for a total of 8 CE hours available.
Each course will be held over two days, broken into two
2-hour sessions, giving you more flexibility in your work
schedule. Attendees have a choice of attending one or both
of the 4-hour courses. Keep in mind, with each 4-hour
course broken into two 2-hour sessions, you MUST
attend both sessions to receive the 4-hour CE credit per
course. No partial CE hours will be allotted.

Spring Workshop Pricing* By 3/21 After Session 2:
3/21
Members (licensed) The Art of Retracement
Featuring: Gary R. Kent, PS
One 4-hour course $199 $199 PENDING for 4.0 NY LS/PE CE Hours
Two 4-hour courses $249 $249 Wednesday, April 9, 2025 AND Thursday, April 10, 2025
3:00pm - 4:00pm (VIRTUAL)
Members (non-licensed) * You MUST ATTEND BOTH LIVE webinar sessions (4/9 &
Unlimited sessions $99 $149 4/10) to receive 4.0 CE hours. No partial CE hours will be allotted.
Non-Members: Every professional surveyor across the United States knows the
Virtual Webinar $249 $299 phrase “Follow in the Footsteps” as it relates to conducting a
Webinar & Walk in the Woods $299 $349 boundary retracement survey. But what does it really mean
and what is the basis for following the footsteps? And exactly
Students (must be student member): whose footsteps are we talking about? Surveyors also know that
Unlimited sessions Free what is written in the conveyancing document is considered by
the courts to be the highest and best expression of the parties’
Session 1: intentions. But what happens when the evidence of the footsteps
The Surveyor’s Judicial Role on the ground conflict with the written title? And what if there are
Featuring: Gary R. Kent, PS seemingly no footsteps to follow? In this program we will explore
PENDING FOR: 4.0 NY LS/PE CE Hours the concept of retracement, how it relates to and is dependent on
Monday, April 7, 2025 AND Tuesday, April 8, 2025 the document of conveyance, and what controls when conflicts
8:00am - 10:00am (VIRTUAL) and ambiguities are inevitably encountered. When armed with a
full understanding of the concept of retracement, surveyors will
*You MUST ATTEND BOTH LIVE webinar sessions (4/7 & be much better equipped to help steer their clients (and their
4/8) to receive 4.0 CE hours. No partial CE hours will be allotted. affected neighbors) away from the pain and cost of litigation, and
Only two persons can truly resolve a dispute boundary or towards an amicable solution based on well-placed confidence
title problem. Those persons do not include attorneys, title and understanding of their respective roles and responsibilities.
companies or surveyors. And, in a sense, they do not even
include judges and juries – at least not of their own volition. About our Speaker
This program explores the role that the professional surveyor Gary Kent has been a Professional Surveyor with
can, and arguable should, take in helping property owners Schneider Geomatics in Indianapolis since 1983. He
establish or maintain their common boundary in location that transitioned to part-time in 2020 and formed Meridian
they were perfectly satisfied with – at least until the surveyor Land Consulting through which he provides training, consulting
showed up! We will look at the role of the surveyor as related and expert witness services. Gary was Chair of the ALTA/NSPS
to boundaries, not only from a statutory standpoint, but also Workgroup responsible for the ALTA/NSPS Standards from 1995-
as eloquently expressed by renowned Michigan Supreme Court 2021. He has presented programs on boundaries, standards, risk
Chief Justice, Thomas Cooley, in his seminal 1881 treatise The management, safety, easements, leadership, and other topics multiple
[Quasi-] Judicial Function of Surveyors. As a part of this, we times in all 50 states. Gary has served on the Indiana State Board
will review the dynamic that exists between matters of title and of Registration for Professional Surveyors since 2004 and is a past-
matters of survey, including a close look at title insurance. We president of both ACSM and the Indiana Society of Professional Land
will also review several examples that demonstrate the problem, Surveyors. He writes a column for American Surveyor magazine
and offer an alternative to what is often the standard approach and is an instructor for GeoLearn, an online provider of continuing
by surveyors. We will outline a new approach that has the education for geospatial professionals.
surveyor helping property owners avoid the expense and angst
of unnecessarily litigating boundaries when there has been
acquiescence to an accepted line by both owners.
Register Online Today! www.nysapls.org

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