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a Chicago Bnei Akiva boy, built Horev Girls School into what it is
                                                              today. And think what Zelda and Rabbi Sholom Horowitz have
                                                              accomplished in Chevron. These are the kind of people I met
                                                              through Bnei Akiva.
                                                              And one more thing. We had so many get-togethers at Bnei Akiva,
                                                              with different sniffim on the West Side, the Lower East Side, Crown
                                                              Heights and Williamsburg. So many shidduchim came out of Bnei
                                                              Akiva – hundreds of shidduchim! I only know of one divorce, from
                                                              all those hundreds of couples.
                                                              You moved to Israel in 1969, during the giddy years
                                                              immediately following the Six Day War. How did the Six
                                                              Day War change the trajectory of your life? Was it difficult
                                                              to leave America? What prompted your Aliyah at that
                                                              particular time?
                                                              I started teaching in 1959 in Ahavath Torah in Englewood with
                                                              Rabbi Swift, which at that time was just a little house. The next
                                                              year I taught at Concourse Center of Israel which was a prominent
        Teaching Talmud in Yeshiva University's Talmudical Academy, 1965
                                                              temple in the Bronx. The main shul had separate seating without
                                                              a mechitzah, but the youth minyan that I ran had one. Then I
                                                              went into the rabbinate, but also stayed with teaching. I started
                                                              teaching at YU in 1962, appointed by Rabbi Shmuel Belkin and
                                                              Rav Soloveitchik. Thank G-d, I was successful; the Rav would build
                                                              up my ego and say “I hear the boys are excited when you teach
                                                              a Tosfos!” The Rav’s attitude was like the Lubavitcher Rebbe – if
                                                              you can teach and handle America, remain there! We need you!
                                                              I was quite happy at YU.
                                                              Then came the Six Day War, and my wife gave me an ultimatum:
                                                              either you come with me to Israel, or stay behind. We stepped off
                                                              the boat in Haifa on July 5, 1969. I’ve returned to the pier in Haifa
                                                              many times since then, but still, it’s like a dream today. When we
                                                              arrived, all I wanted was one thing – I wanted to know kol haTorah
                                                              kulah, the entire Torah. I started then, in 1969, and though I haven’t
                                                              achieved my goal, no one can accuse me of not trying!
                                                              I was offered many positions with big titles like ‘president’,
        Annual Dinner Beth Ephraim – Maplewood Jewish Center, 1968 – (left to right) – Max   ‘chancellor’, ‘rosh yeshivah’, and ‘dean’. I remember being offered
        and Jennie Rothkoff, Malkah and Rabbi Aaron Rakeffet-Rothkoff
                                                              a $50,000 salary in the lobby of the Kings Hotel, which back then,
                                                              during the tough times after the Yom Kippur War, was a fortune!
                                                              Rabbi Chaim Drukman, whom I idolized, called me; he wanted
                                                              me to run for the Knesset. But I couldn’t leave the beit midrash,
                                                              and I couldn’t leave my students. My time in Bnei Akiva gave me
                                                              the ability to always say no, the ability to not allow money to
                                                              determine my life decisions. I owe a tremendous debt of gratitude
                                                              to Bnei Akiva. I’m very proud to be a Mizrachi Jew!
                                                              Was Rav Soloveitchik supportive of your Aliyah?
                                                              The Rav was very proud of Bnei Akiva and its accomplishments,
                                                              but on the other hand he was very hesitant to lose all his students
                                                              to Israel.
                                                              In 1968, we came to Israel for the first time on an RCA trip; we
                                                              left our youngest daughter with my wife’s parents and the two
                                                              older girls came with us. On that trip, we vowed we would settle
                                                              in Israel within the year. We came back on Aliyah ten months later.

                                                              I went to the Rav to get a birkat preidah, a goodbye blessing, and
        Leaving Yeshiva University in New York after teaching his final class in 1969. A few   his first words to me were “How will you make a living?” He was
        days later, they set sail to Israel.                  bound to earth! I said “I don’t know, we’ll figure it out…” I also

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