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               banks                                                                                                                    Q. What are the major trends in frauds in banking   repeatable, make that with artificial intelligence built-in and
                                                                                                                                                                                          that customary wisdom become a science. When that
                                                                                                                                        and nancial system are you seeing this year?
                                                                                                                                        As the banking industry is moving and opening up more and   happens, you will have the ability to look at billions of
               identify                                                                                                                 more channels, you will see that the ability is good as more   customers and you will have an ability to spot that
                                                                                                                                                                                          repeatedly and it's on the backbone of the latest disruptive
                                                                                                                                        people are getting into the banking system. But at the same
                                                                                                                                        time, it opens up more avenues for fraud. So the fraud is   technology, artificial intelligence, predictive analytics and how
               wilful                                                                                                                   coming in all forms. It's not just from a cybersecurity   do you leverage that to get that synthesised.
                                                                                                                                        perspective. It's getting harder to stop fraud. Whereas when
               defaulters                                                                                                               you went to the branch and submitted a document then the   Q. When the banks or nancial institutions adopt
                                                                                                                                                                                          such solutions, how accurate the ndings are? And
                                                                                                                                        earlier person would be able to judge you and do things. It
                                                                                                                                        was easier to stop the transaction from happening at that   what is the biggest nding so far?
                                                                                                                                        level, whereas now with the online transactions when   We can actually tell you with 86.2% probability. For
               Why don’t banks manage to                                                                                                something is on the move, you cannot stop it. So if the   instance, this person is indeed diverting funds so that ability
               identify wilful defaulters and                                                                                           assets get more open and faster, the probability of fraud is   to take out that gap feel out of it into science is something
               avoid the potential defaults?                                                                                            also on the rise. This is why you need systems in place as   that the system rigs in. So you match make traditional data
                                                                                                                                                                                          which is your repayment history, your ability your... And
               Why are there rising defaults in                                                                                         you open more channels, get more and more blocks....to   things like that which normally people look at internal credit
               the banking system and what                                                                                              different avenues of fraud.                       rating and marry that with big data and infrastructure data.
               are major trends? What are the                                                                                           Q.In many cases, most of the banks realise only   So when we say big data elements you can spot if a
               lessons banks learnt from IIFL                                                                                           after the fraud has reported. Why don't Banks spot   particular sector is going to be affected.
               and DHFL crisis? Jaya                                                                                                    frauds before it happens?
               Vaidyanathan, CEO, BCT                                                                                                   We call it as a native intelligence or something that is biased   Q. What are your observations? Are the
                                                                                                                                        or a judgment call, like when you walk into the branch and I   people/borrowers diverting funds or it's their
               Digital, Bahwan CyberTek                                                                                                 knew you were doing something most people would say it's   inability to pay?
               Group, explains the story                                                                                                customary wisdom. The ability to take this wisdom and   It's based on the Pareto principle of 20 and 80. From the
               behind the banking frauds                                                                                                synthesise that into repeated processes that's what the   perspective of the largest transaction, the Bigger they get the
                                                                                                                                        systems do. It's not just the hard data which is the historical   more the kind of ability to move things around. So there are
                                                                                                                                        data which talks about the repayment history etc about the   two sides to the coin. One is what bankers must do and
                                                                                                                                        customer but blending that with elements of softer data that   one is what customers of the bank must do. There is a
                                                                                                                                        gives you resilience and the ability to predict whether a   greater incidence that is reported because some of the
               April 27 2020                                                                                                            fraud is coming. So that comes from the ability to use all the   larger ones that are too big to fail have failed. And that pulls
                                                                                                                                        big data elements, whether you were using the money for   the entire industry and the fundamental economy down. So
               Jaya Vaidhyanathan                                                                                                       the wrong reasons, were you subjected to frequent   the frauds are getting bigger and reported more as well and
               CEO, BCT Digital                                                                                                         management audit, so a lot of soft data that exists in the   they are more in media. Earlier also frauds were happening
                                                                                                                                        system, how can you synthesise that and make that   but these is where systems come into play. The more you


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