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           is going to help you in your life and path, to transform,   one of his gurus were to do something he thought was
           you realize the answer is: “nothing”. On the other hand,   wrong he would say so, and it would do no harm to his
           you may listen to someone whose speech is in a kind   meditation.
           of monotone, is a bit difficult to hear, kind of boring,
           but what they are saying, the meaning, when you really   To think, “since my guru did it, abuse, stealing, lying,
           listen, is exhilarating, profound, and very useful indeed.   must be good, so it’s okay for me to do, too” would be
                                                              completely wrong.
           Fundamentally what I look for is a good person, kind
                                                              Are there Buddhist texts you can suggest a Buddhist
           hearted and wise, who has a very good understanding
                                                              to read in order not to blindly follow a guru, and
           of what I want to know.
                                                              how to spot one who is a fake?
           [The Four Reliances as taught by HH The Dalai Lama
           are (1) Do not rely upon the individual, but rely upon the   Besides the traditional sources I have mentioned
           teaching. (2) As far as the teachings go, do not rely upon   above, there is the article “Relating to a spiritual
           the words alone, but rely upon the meaning that underlies   teacher: Building a Healthy Relationship”, by Dr Alex
           them. (3) Regarding the meaning, do not rely upon the   Berzin. I think you will find that very useful. There is
           provisional meaning alone, but rely upon the definitive   no substitute for learning the Buddha’s teachings from
           meaning. (4) And regarding the definitive meaning,   qualified teachers and from texts by well qualified
           do not rely upon ordinary consciousness, but rely upon   masters, such as HH the Dalai Lama. The more you
           wisdom awareness.]                                 know, the better you can tell from what the masters
                                                              say if they are genuine masters. In short, the answer to
           Pure morality is essential. With that quality at least   this question is: study the texts I’ve mentioned, keep
           they can guide you to a good destiny after this life.   the Four Reliances in mind, rely a bit on your heart to
           HH Dalai Lama says: get to know them by attending   know who is a good person, and remember HH the Dalai
           their teachings like a student attending the professor’s   Lama’s advice to start out with the perception of oneself
           lectures. Then, once you are confident that this is the   attending a professor’s lectures.
           right person, you commit yourself to a guru-disciple
                                                              Any further advice to a new Buddhist on how best to
           relationship.
                                                              relate to a spiritual teacher?
           If one realizes that one’s guru has not been ethical
           in his/her ethical conduct, what is the correct    Once the relationship of teacher/guru and student/
           approach a student should take out of compassion   disciple has been established, the phase during which
           for the guru?                                      one checks the guru has to come to an end. From
                                                              then onwards we focus on the qualities and kindness
           This is a very complex question. Extremely complex. So   of our teacher. Lama Yeshe once said to me, “I never
           it’s quite difficult to say much.                  think of myself as better than my teacher”. When the
                                                              relationship is healthy, anything is possible. With strong
           As followers of the Buddha, we strive to maintain a   faith, things can happen very fast that might otherwise
           positive, kind, warm attitude to all beings, even the   have taken a thousand years.  EH
           most evil person in the world - especially the most evil
           person in the world. So of course we need to maintain a
           positive attitude towards our gurus, whatever it is they
           have done or been accused of doing. HH Dalai Lama says
           on this that having made the guru-disciple connection,
           if things don’t work out then we put our mind into
           neutral mode about them. I’ve also heard him say that if
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