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                                             How reliable is



                                             Norbu the Chatbot?



                                             By Lim Kooi Fong



                                             Lim Kooi Fong has been a student of Buddhism and a Dharma
                                             teacher for more than 30 years. He is the founder of the Buddhist
                                             Channel (www.buddhistchannel.tv), Buddhist Travel (www.
                                             buddhistravel.com), and the Buddhist AI chatbot NORBU (https://
                                             norbu-ai.org). He is also a life member of the Upakara Kalyana Mitta
                                             Buddhist Association (UKMBA) and actively conducts Dharma talks
                                             for Buddhist societies around the Klang Valley in Malaysia. Benny
                                             Liow interviews Kooi Fong about his chatbot Norbu that has created
                                             an unprecedented excitement among members of the Buddhist
                                             community not just in Malaysia but also globally.




           Benny: You created Norbu, a chatbot that can       Wee Keat, NORBU was born. Incidentally, NORBU
           answer questions related to Buddhism. What was     stands for “Neural Operator for Responsible Buddhist
           your inspiration behind this initiative?           Understanding,” which by itself indicates some

                                                              intelligent capability.
           Kooi Fong: I attended the Global Buddhist Summit
           organised by the International Buddhist Confederation   With NORBU’s birth I also realised the meaning of the
           (IBC) held in New Delhi in April 2023. On the second day,   message I took away from HH’s speech, that is, the
           HH the Dalai Lama gave a keynote address. His speech   Buddha’s teachings are now “available to be asked and
           was about 90 minutes and he talked about many things.   questioned”, and that “Dharma personalisation for self-
           But two key points stuck with me, and that was “We   learning” is now possible. These are the hallmark of the
           must be grateful to the Nalanda Tradition, for without   Nalanda Tradition, which prides itself in the culture of
           it, there would be no Tibetan Buddhism today”, and “We   debating and questioning validity of Buddhist tenets.
           need to bring Nalanda Tradition outside of India”.   Also NORBU is now available to Buddhists all over the
                                                              world, which technically fulfils HH’s second point.
           Now I am a Theravadian Buddhist, and does not really
           know much about Vajyrayana or Tibetan Buddhism.    A chatbot is a computer program that simulates
           Much less Nalanda Tradition. I was really pique why   human conversation with an end user, but not all
           that 2 points kept on playing in my mind, even after   chatbots are equipped with artificial intelligence
           coming back to Kuala Lumpur. When I came back, my   (AI). Is Norbu a form of AI?
           IT friend who supports the Buddhist Channel server
           facility offered me to take a look at some “ChatGPT   Yes, NORBU is a Language Learning Model (LLM)
           source codes” and asked me to “do something with it”.  based on Claude 3.5 Sonnet. It is a machine learning
                                                              model specialized in comprehending and generating
           So with his help, an AI service provider, and two other   text, a crucial aspect of natural language processing
           Buddhist friends in Bro. Wong Tin Song and Bro. Ng   (NLP). Trained on vast amounts of text data, NORBU
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