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ways in which, by altering and simplifying the rules governing transfer values, a good

                   deal of help could be given to those who were saddled with the administration of funds.
                   Mr K. G. Smith wished to make it clear, in view of the doubt there seemed to be on the

                   point, that the public boards which had been set up recently as a result of nationalization
                   had  separate  funds  and  had  made  provision  for  valuation  of  their  liabilities  and  for

                   making  deficiency  payments  to  make  their  funds  self-sufficient.  It  had  already  been
                   pointed out that the information given in the appendices to the paper was incomplete in

                   one particular, and that was that in the public board with which he himself was associated

                   the independent schemes existing at the date when the board took over were not being
                   continued. It was a similar problem to the one which was to be found in the paper as a

                   whole,  but  on  a  smaller  scale.  There  were  200  schemes  at  the  vesting  date,  and  the

                   problem was whether they should be continued or wound up. The board decided to wind
                   them up. The actual machinery was  interesting,  because it might  be  an  example  for a

                   larger  amalgamation.  Each  scheme  was  considered,  and  an  offer  was  made  to  each
                   member, not necessarily an offer of a  year for a year. There were two simple devices

                   which made it much easier to equate benefits. One was to offer a proportion of a year in
                   the  board's  scheme  for  each  year  in  the  old  scheme,  and  the  other,  in  those  schemes

                   which were money-purchase schemes or insurance schemes and which did not relate their

                   benefits to salary at retirement, to grant a year with a fixed pensionable ceiling instead of
                   one related to the pension at retirement. It was possible by those two methods to allow

                   satisfactory terms to the vast majority of people who were transferred.
                   There would always be exceptions, and special steps had to be taken to safeguard their

                   rights, including the guarantee of benefits on the scale of their old scheme but limited by
                   certain  notional  increases  of  salary,  and  taking  into  account  any  future  difference  in

                   contributions. It was then possible for the Minister fairly and equitably to issue an order

                   winding up the scheme, and the scheme then ceased to exist, the assets being transferred.
                   He was surprised that one point had not been mentioned in the paper. Most people were

                   agreed that freedom of transfer between the various public boards was a good thing. He

                   was equally convinced that free transfer between public boards and private enterprise was
                   an even better thing, and it seemed to him that an immediate practical approach would be
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