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agreed with Mr Hickinbotham, however, that there still remained some case for a small

                   lump sum.


                   The  other  main  point  made  in  the  discussion  concerned  un  funding.  He  agreed  with
                   everything said by the actuarial profession as to the merits of funded schemes and with

                   regard  to  the  National  Health  Service  scheme,  he  regarded  the  annexation  of  that
                   £40,000,000 as a completely inexcusable squandering of capital assets designed for the

                   future.


                   The Exchequer might hold that as they were financing it they could run it their own way,

                   but what about the Fire Service? That was primarily the financial responsibility of local

                   authorities.  In  the  negotiations  which  had  gone  on  he  had  not  heard  a  single  local
                   authority spokesman declare in favor of an unfunded scheme, and he had heard several

                   very  strong  expressions  in  favor  of  a  funded  scheme;  yet  it  was  understood  that  the
                   Treasury had ruled that it should be unfunded.


                   Mr Elphinstone later wrote: The ideas which I was trying to express at the meeting spring

                   from the fact that when the present generation retires, the next generation will determine

                   the  total  amount  of  goods  and  services  which  its  pensions  will  buy.  If  the  present
                   generation does not make capital investment as the actuarial liabilities for its pensions

                   grow, then it will be hard up in its old age. It will not be the servants of private industry,
                   members of insured and funded schemes, who will then be granted cost of living bonuses

                   to relieve their distress, but the members of the unfunded schemes, for there such relief
                   involves  no  immediate  deficiency.  In  an  unfunded  scheme,  such  extravagance  is

                   encouraged because there is no machinery to count the cost.


                   Members of these schemes drawing pensions based on final salaries will already hold a

                   disproportionate claim to the goods and services available for the old people. But though

                   their claims will be out of proportion and further increased by the reliefs, it will be these
                   same  people  who  will  have  caused  distress  among  their  fellows  by  claiming  pensions

                   against which there is no capital investment.
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