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paper only to indicate ideas, and not necessarily to follow them to conclusions ; he had

                   left that for the speakers in the discussion. He did not propose to deal at great length with
                   all the points which had arisen, many of which were important but somewhat incidental

                   to  the  main  question  of  standardizing  or  combining  schemes.  He  fully  agreed  that
                   unification of finance was not desirable. There were arguments for it, but in his opinion,

                   as in the opinion of most of those present, they were weak arguments.


                   There  were  far  stronger  and  more  cogent  reasons  for  separate  finance,  but  he  did  not

                   regard those reasons as in any way detracting from the idea of standard benefits.
                   One or two speakers had said that they did not think that transfers were very frequent.

                   Again he could only speak for his own authority. He hesitated to quote a figure, but he

                   would put the number of transfer values, incoming and outgoing, with which they had
                   dealt annually, at between 5 and 10 per cent, of the membership of their fund.


                   Although The Development of Public Superannuation Schemes 37 that figure included

                   transfers  of  nurses,  who  would,  to  a  large  extent,  cease,  the  total  was  certainly  not
                   inconsiderable. Probably also they saw more of the special cases of  transfer values than

                   did most other authorities, and knew the difficulties of the person who said that he had

                   lost something by his transfer from another scheme.


                   That kind of thing should not be allowed. He knew that in many cases people transferred
                   voluntarily,  but  they  should  not  have  artificial  penalties  put  on  them  for  what  was

                   presumably an increase in the efficiency of the public service—because otherwise they
                   would not be taken into the employment of their new employer.



                   That kind of discrepancy could be avoided by uniform benefits. Reference had been made
                   to  the way in  which those pension schemes had developed, and to  the reasons  behind

                   their provisions. The reasons for creating a particular benefit at a certain time might have

                   been  very  good  ones  even  if  the  need  for  some  of  the  provisions  had  since  largely
                   disappeared. For instance, the reasons for the lump sum benefit were very good when it

                   was  first  introduced,  for  at  that  time  no  special  provision  was  made  for  widows.  He
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