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HD: 38 of the NIFTY 100 companies are signatories to CDP
           Although most of the ESG tracking seems to be
                                                             Worldwide (Carbon Disclosure Project), which shows that
             in chase of long-term returns and attracting    climate change is a focus for corporate India. However, only
           capital, there is a coterie of asset managers that   in  9  companies  have  the  sustainability  objectives  been
                                                             embedded on executive directors' performance goals. One
              believe ESG factors do expose investors to
                                                             could conclude therefore that while climate change is being
                        uncompensated risks                  addressed  through  business,  the  focus  on  this  at  board
                                                             levels is still limited.
          PG: While pressure is growing on fund managers to pay  The increasing issuances of green bonds is also testimony to
          greater  attention  to  environmental  and  social  issues,  is  the  fact  that  not  just  companies,  but  investors  too  are
          there  a  realisation  that  ESG  and  impact  investing  can  showing an increased focus on sustainability.
          generate strong financial returns as well?
                                                             The Indian exchanges consider their dominant role to be
          According to Bloomberg – nine of the biggest ESG mutual  one  of  providing  a  platform  for  exchange.  They  do  not
          funds in the U.S. outperformed the Standard & Poor's 500  pursue an agenda, believing that this may compromise their
          Index  last  year,  and  seven  of  them  beat  their  market  position as an unbiased market fiduciary. Therefore, the first
          benchmarks over the past five                      step will be for exchanges (and perhaps the regulators) to
          years.                                             redefine their role as influencers of Indian markets.
          HD: Several domestic funds are now focused on ESG. We  PG:  Indian  Corporate  Governance  Scorecard  framework
          believe the asset managers are clearly seeing the value of  developed  by  you  jointly  with  the  International  Finance
          ESG, and in several instances also being compelled by their  Corporation and the BSE – to what extent can it facilitate
          own  investors  /  unit  holders,  to  focus  on  ESG.    With  underwriting management liability exposures of individual
          stewardship codes now becoming mandatory for almost  corporates rated here?
          all asset classes, it will propel the focus on ESG factors.   HD: Our research shows that companies that score well on
          While  this  is  still  relatively  new  for  Indian  markets,  we   the  CG  Scorecard  (score  of  60  and  above)  have  out
          believe the pace at which ESG will become a centre stage   performance the index over a two-year period. Their stock
          conversation will be quick.
                                                             beta (volatility) also tends to be lower than companies that
          PG: Some asset managers believe that not considering ESG  do  not  score  well  on  the  CG  scorecard.  Clearly,  equity
          exposes legacy investors to uncompensated risks and may  markets seem to attach a premium to governance quality.
          even constitute a breach of fiduciary duty?        Similarly, from a liability perspective, it can be interpreted
                                                             that companies with a good governance score, in effect, are
          HD:  Although  most  of  the  ESG  tracking  seems  to  be  in
          chase of long-term returns and attracting capital, there is a   likely to have a lower probability of governance failures.
          coterie  of  asset  managers  that  believe  ESG  factors  do  PG:  Many  thanks,  Ms.  Dalal.  Truly  appreciate  these
          expose investors to uncompensated risks. There have been  wonderful insights. My best wishes for all your end eavours.
          ESG failures that have resulted in sharp deterioration in
          market capitalisation resulting in losses for investors. At
          the same time, there is a need for investors to be more
          discerning around how to proactively factor in ESG – for a
          large part, investors (and the market) is reactionary. Even
          so, I don't think asset managers in India consider this to the   The increasing issuances of green
          extent  of  interpreting  it  as  a  failure  of  fiduciary   bonds is also testimony to the fact that
          responsibility.
                                                                   not just companies, but investors too
          PG: Do you think Climate Change is becoming an important   are showing an increased focus on
          agenda for enlightened Indian boards? Measuring Sustain             sustainability.
          ability  Disclosure:  Ranking  the  Worlds  Stock  Exchanges
          2019, both Bombay Stock Exchange and National Stock
                               th
          Exchange of India rank 37  worldwide.
          How do we move up?


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