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 are now enforcing bans on single-   MF: The COPs sound interesting.   « Multilateralism is under pressure
 use plastic bags, such as Kenya, or   What else apart from marine
 be it the many countries which   plastic waste is on the agenda?
 are collectively throwing human   RP: Both the Rotterdam and   but is definitely not dead! »
 and  financial  resources  into   Stockholm conventions will also
 international  processes  aiming   work on the possible listing of
 at tackling this global problem   more chemicals either for further
 in a coordinated and connected   controls or outright restriction.
 manner. But there is more that can   This is done through a robust
 be done, and I am confident more   scientific review process. They
 would be done. The observation   will be deciding upon chemicals
 of plastic particles in our food   found in fire extinguishers, non-
 should not be taken lightly.   stick cookware, and other items
    we use at home – for example
 MF: Can you say more?   in stain-resistant textiles such as
 RP:  Of  course.  For  example,   carpets - and which have been
 Norway, a country you feature   found to be linked to major health
 elsewhere  in  this  magazine,   issues such as kidney cancer,
 has been quite instrumental in   testicular cancer, thyroid disease,
 providinginternationalleadership,   pregnancy-inducedhypertension,
 and  also  financial  resources,    and high cholesterol.
 to help engage governments
 and stimulate UN efforts to pull together state-of-the-art   MF: Non-stick pans? What can people do then, at the
 information, analysis of policy gaps, and the discussion of   individual level, to protect themselves and their families
 potential governance options, for tackling marine plastic   from these “invisible hazards”?
 pollution, including through the Basel Convention. In fact,   RP: Well, once aware, people can do a host of things which
 a growing group of countries, both in the developed and   will lower their own exposure, and at the same time benefit
 developing world, are calling for clear and tangible action on   the environment. Some of these actions might even save them
 the issue of plastics. It is one area, they declare, that we have   money! Changing habits is the first step. Choose cooking
 had enough talk – we now need impactful action – and I agree   pans with safer coatings, for example. Cutting down on waste
 with them. For this reason, I am very excited that the meeting   is a no brainer!
 of the Conference of the Parties to the Basel Convention will   Especially avoiding single-use plastics and by reusing or
 be considering a range of concrete actions to address this   recycling as much as one can. In some circles some consumers
 issue, including a proposal for more comprehensive coverage   have adopted the slogan - If it can’t be reused or recycled,
 of the plastic wastes moved across borders.   refuse it!
 MF: What meeting is that??   At our COPs we will also be encouraging all delegates to
 RP: Every two years the parties (governments) come together   walk the walk. For many years now, our meetings have been
 to take decisions on the sound management of chemicals and   paperless, we have also made them carbon-neutral, and since
 waste, within the legal framework of the three international   last year we have increased our efforts in reducing wastes and
 conventions  –  the  Basel,  Rotterdam  and  Stockholm   eliminating the use of single-use plastic materials. This year,
 conventions. Those decisions should then be given effect in   we will be asking the delegates to BYOBottle: Bring Your
 those countries that are parties to those conventions. This   Own Bottle – as there will indeed be no plastic water bottles
 year, our Triple Conference of the Parties (or COPs) will   available or sold.
 run from 29 April to 10 May under the banner of “Clean    Interview with
 Planet Healthy People” and we hope that it will send a strong   MF: Wonderful! Dr Payet, thank you for explaining all
 message that we indeed need to clean up our planet for the   about chemicals and waste, good luck with those important
 sake of the health of all.   decisions at the COPs, and we look forward to hearing   Mr Hans
 positive outcomes for human health and environment very
 Our message is that even if wastes are being dumped far   soon.
 away from where we got rid of them, in remote locations,   RP:  Thank  you  Marit,  it  has  been  a  pleasure.  I  urge
 there is clear scientific evidence that their hazards come   anyone interested in finding out more, including our
 back through our air, food and water. If there is one thing   colleagues from the media, to consult our websites at www.   Brattskar
 on our planet that we cannot hide – it is our waste. Sooner   brsmeas.org or to follow us on Twitter @brsmeas   •
 or later it will be washed up on our coasts, turn up in our
 food, in the air we breathe. I challenge anyone to bring me a   Ambassador of Norway to the United Nations Office
 glass of naturally collected water which does not contain any
 manmade chemical or microplastic!   and other international organizations in  Geneva

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