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RD: Yeah. Going back to your earlier question, like where do we get the energy? The truth is music
for us is our outlet for so many things and neither of us, you know, I've had some success. The
Hoax is fairly successful, but it's limited success and every project I've done has been fairly
successful, but it's never really connected in a commercial way and found a big audience. I think
that that's why music is still very real for us, and we write albums about real stuff. We're not just
writing songs about being on tour. We're not churning out songs just because we need to. We love
what we do, and I think that comes through in our passion for the music. So, yeah, looking forward

five years, I think if we could be doing this and if all our hard work pays off and we get a bigger
team behind us that can, I was going to say make it easier for us to do this, then I think we'll be
having the time of our lives because we will be out doing the things that we love and the pleasure
of everyday.

BiTS: I wish you both the very best of luck in achieving that and I also want to thank you for getting
up early in the morning to speak to me. Thank you very much indeed.

RD: Awesome. Thanks.

GV: Thank you, Ian.

BiTS: Thank you very much indeed. Yes. okay. Cheers. You look after yourselves. Bye.

GV: Thank you. You too.

RD: Bye.