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will be satisfied with their pills and will move off to colonies
based on drugs. The rest of us, the Materialists, will inherit
the world.
Fritscher: So Absolute Satanism is humanism and mate-
rialism. But is Satanism narcissism? Drugs, which you have
always denounced, are very narcissistic.
LaVey: Actually, I’m very much opposed to drugs from
a magical point of view, from a control point of view. I feel
drugs are antithetical to magic. The pseudo-Satanist or
pseudo-witch or self-styled mystic who predicates his suc-
cess on a drug revelation is only going to succeed within
his drugged peer group. His miracles go no farther than
his credibility. This type of witchery is limited. This, I say,
despite the fact that the druggies are no longer just a mar-
ginal group, but are a very large subculture which threatens
to be the “New Spirituality” or the “New Mysticism” or the
“New Non-Materialism.”
Fritscher: So the drug culture, despite its visions on
peyote and acid, is narcissistic in that it turns in on itself
and accomplishes nothing. Witchcraft, on the other hand,
is a means to an end.
LaVey: The whole concept of witchery is manipulation
of other human beings, as means to the end you want.
Fritscher: You give an essential definition, and clear
motivation.
LaVey: Druggies don’t realize that. Druggies are not
manipulative witches. To manipulate someone you’ve got
to be able to relate to that someone. Their idea of witchery
is not witchcraft so much–in the sense of witchery being
manipulative magic–as witchery equaling revelation of a
spiritual nature.
Fritscher: Two different goals. Power and mysticism.
LaVey: Their superego gets developed through the use
of drugs. This superego can be the ear-mark of a new world
of drones who, through soma, would attain superegos which

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