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BUSINESS                 Monday 18 SepteMber 2017
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            As stocks set highs, investors still worry about next crash


            By STAN CHOE                 mostly gentle ride upward.  boom  when  day  traders  years,  which  means  they       ing  in  unison,  which  helps
            AP Business Writer           The S&P 500 has already set  were  bragging  about  get-  look  more  expensively  val-  lift profits for the big multi-
            NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  What  is  a record more than 30 times  ting rich quickly and inves-  ued than usual. One mea-   national  companies  that
            the  sound  of  a  stock  mar-                                                                                      dominate U.S. stock index-
            ket  at  a  record  high  and                                                                                       es.The persistent growth of
            nobody buying it?                                                                                                   the U.S. economy is one of
            Even with stocks in the midst                                                                                       two reasons that the Gold-
            of  one  of  their  best-ever                                                                                       man Sachs strategists gave
            runs, investors are on pace                                                                                         in a recent research report
            to pull more money out of                                                                                           for  why  they  see  a  sharp
            U.S.  stock  funds  than  they                                                                                      downturn for stocks as un-
            put  in  for  the  third  straight                                                                                  likely in the near term. The
            year and the eighth in the                                                                                          other:  “Investors  are  not
            last 10 years.                                                                                                      complacent.”  Fund  man-
            The memory of the financial                                                                                         agers  are  holding  onto
            crisis from 2007 into 2009 is                                                                                       about  as  much  cash  as
            still too fresh for many inves-                                                                                     they  usually  do  —  they’d
            tors,  who  watched  stock                                                                                          be  more  fully  invested  if
            prices  plunge  by  more                                                                                            they were more excited —
            than  half.  After  many  sat                                                                                       and investor dollars flowing
            out  the  ensuing,  torrid  rise                                                                                    into  stock-index  funds  are
            for the market — the Stan-                                                                                          being  offset  by  the  dol-
            dard & Poor’s 500 index has                                                                                         lars flowing out of actively
            more than tripled since hit-                                                                                        managed funds.
            ting bottom — they’re now                                                                                           That  movement  may  be
            wondering if the next crash                                                                                         due to the increased pop-
            is imminent.                 In this Thursday, Feb. 9, 2017 photo, traders work the floor at the New York Stock Exchange. The   ularity of target-date retire-
            “It’s still one of the first things   stock market is at a record, and no one seems to care. Investors are on pace to pull more money   ment funds, which typically
            that comes up” when Brian    out of U.S. stock funds than they put in for a third straight year, and for the eighth time in the last   make  big  investments  in
            Jacobsen,  chief  portfolio   decade. That hesitance to buy is actually an encouraging sign to many investors and has some   foreign  stocks  to  diversify
            strategist  at  Wells  Fargo   Wall Street watchers saying stocks can avoid a downturn in the near term.            their portfolios.
            Funds  Management,  talks                                                                 (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)  That’s  counter  to  what
            with clients and even some  in 2017, with only a few big  tors  were  scrambling  to  sure  popularized  by  Nobel   many  mom-and-pop  in-
            friends.  “The  question  is:  down days, due in part to  join them. In 1999, investors  prize-winner  Robert  Shiller   vestors  did  when  left  to
            ‘When is the bubble going  a resurgence in corporate-     threw a net $188 billion into  says that the S&P 500 is at   their own devices. Around
            to  burst?’  I’ve  been  hear-  profit  growth.  Companies  domestic  stock  funds.  The  its  most  expensive  level   the  world,  they’ve  histori-
            ing that since 2012.”        themselves remain big pur-   next  year,  when  the  S&P  since  2001.  Not  only  that,   cally  been  biased  toward
            Another  reason  for  cau-   chasers of U.S. stocks, and  500  peaked,  it  was  nearly  but  interest  rates  are  ex-  stocks  from  their  home
            tion: America’s increasingly  foreign  investors  have  also  $300 billion.            pected to rise, which theo-  country.q
            wrinkled complexion. Baby  been buying some.              In  the  years  running  up  to  retically  should  lower  how
            Boomers  may  be  getting  The     general    skittishness  the Great Recession, fewer  much  investors  will  pay  for
            more  conservative  with  about stocks is actually an  dollars  were  heading  into  each $1 in corporate prof-
            their nest eggs and putting  encouraging  sign  to  some  domestic  stock  funds  than  its.  Throw  in  the  wild  card
            more money into bonds as  on  Wall  Street,  particularly  during  the  dot-com  bub-  that  is  Washington  politics,
            they  approach  or  move  those  who  follow  famed  ble,  but  still  more  money  and  investors  are  feeling
            further into retirement.     investor  John  Templeton’s  was going into the market  unmoored.
            Through  the  first  seven  maxim  that  “bull  markets  than coming out. Now, the  Even optimistic analysts are
            months  of  this  year,  inves-  are  born  on  pessimism,  tide is in the opposite direc-  somewhat   circumspect,
            tors  pulled  a  net  $8  billion  grow on skepticism, mature  tion. Investors pulled an av-  expecting  more  modest
            out  of  U.S.  stock  funds.  on optimism and die on eu-  erage  of  nearly  $24  billion  gains  than  the  roughly  14
            The figures from the Invest-  phoria.”  There  are  indeed  out of domestic stock funds  percent  that  the  market
            ment  Company  Institute  many reasons to worry, the  annually from 2008 through  has delivered annually the
            include index mutual funds  market’s  high  price  chief  2016.                        last five years, on average.
            and  ETFs,  whose  popular-  among  them,  but  at  least  Instead  of  euphoria,  strat-  But  they  point  to  the  still-
            ity have boomed in recent  there  doesn’t  seem  to  be  egists  at  Goldman  Sachs  improving  economy,  and
            years,  as  well  as  funds  run  any euphoria. If all the po-  say  investors  are  currently  note the typical U.S. house-
            by stock pickers looking to  tential  buyers  that  remain  between  skepticism  and  hold is finally making more
            beat the S&P 500 and other  get lured into the fold, then  optimism.                   in income than it did at the
            indexes.                     it would be time to get wor-  The skeptics have honed in  end of the last millennium,
            That  hesitance  to  invest  ried, the contrarians say.   on  how  stock  prices  have  after adjusting for inflation.
            comes even as stocks have  To see what euphoria looks  risen more quickly than cor-    Other  economies  around
            attained  new  highs  in  a  like,  consider  the  dot-com  porate  earnings  in  recent  the  world  are  also  grow-
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