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                   Thursday 5 april 2018
            Q&A: Kenneth Lonergan on adapting 'Howards End'




            By JAKE COYLE                                                                                                       tone that they strike in that
            NEW  YORK  (AP)  —  "How-                                                                                           movie is so specific and so
            ards  End,"  the  upcoming                                                                                          lively  and  so  full  of  feeling
            four-part  miniseries  adapt-                                                                                       and  humor  and  beauty.
            ed  from  E.M.  Forster's  1910                                                                                     "Howards  End"  is  obviously
            novel,  isn't  Kenneth  Loner-                                                                                      very different and it can be
            gan's  first  foray  into  tele-                                                                                    a bit more ponderous. And
            vision.  That  would  be  the                                                                                       the form is so different. The
            animated Nickelodeon kids                                                                                           original  film  isn't  over  two
            show "Doug."                                                                                                        hours  long.  They  just  have
            Before Lonergan was one of                                                                                          to pare away so much.
            the  most  acclaimed  play-                                                                                         AP: Why is it, do you think,
            wrights  and  filmmakers  of                                                                                        we  keep  coming  back  to
            his generation, he was like                                                                                         "Howards End"?
            most  young  writers:  hunt-                                                                                        Lonergan:  It  seems  to  me
            ing  for  work  and  for  mon-                                                                                      that  one  thing  it's  about  is
            ey. He and his friend Andy                                                                                          people coming up against
            Yerkes wrote apair of 1993                                                                                          the  limits  of  their  own  ex-
            episodes for "Doug." How it                                                                                         perience,  and  also  finding
            happened, the 55-year-old                                                                                           the  value  in  their  own  ex-
            playwright can't recall. "Or                                                                                        perience.  There  are  some
            why  they  only  wanted  us                                                                                         things the Wilcoxes just can-
            to write only two episodes,"    In this Feb. 6, 2017 file photo, Kenneth Lonergan arrives at the 89th Academy Awards Nominees   not  handle  and  that  the
            said Lonergan. "I guess they   Luncheon in Beverly Hills, Calif.                                                    Schlegels are very good at,
            didn't like our episodes very                                                                      Associated Press  and vice versa.
            much. I thought they were                                                                                           AP:  Especially  good  is  the
            OK." "Howards End," a BBC  working  on  "Manchester  instead  concentrate  sole-       thing  I  actually  came  to  scene   where   Margaret
            production  that  Starz  will  by  the  Sea,"  for  which  he  ly  on  adapting  the  book  admire more and more as  Schlegel criticizes Henry Wil-
            premiere    Sunday,    may  won best screenplay at last  about  three  rungs  of  soci-  I worked on it.            cox as "muddled, criminally
            be  Lonergan's  second  TV  year's Academy Awards.        ety  in  Edwardian  England:  AP:  What  do  you  admire  muddled" for the hypocrisy
            credit but — no offense to  Exhausted  from  the  rigors  the  high-minded  Schlegel  about it?                     of his double standards.
            "Doug"  —  it's  his  most  sub-  of  that  Oscar  campaign  sisters, the wealthy but ob-  Lonergan:  When  you  put  Lonergan: It's just very per-
            stantial  small-screen  effort  ("Those  events  really  take  stinate  Wilcoxes  and  the  his  dialogue  into  scene  ceptive  of  her.  She  also
            yet.  Lonergan  wrote  the  over  your  consciousness,  unfortunate Basts.             form, it really comes to life  says  in  the  same  speech
            four-hour  series,  directed  not  just  your  life,"  he  says)  In  a  recent  interview,  Lo-  quite  beautifully.  Possibly  that  "I'm  tired  of  your  un-
            by  Hetti  MacDonald  and  Lonergan  opted  not  to  di-  nergan  discussed  making  because it's a different time  weeded  kindness,"  which
            starring Hayley Atwell, while  rect  the  British  series  and  "Howards End" — previously  and place, a lot of the hu-  is a really good phrase. Be-
                                                                      made  into  the  1992  Mer-  mor  is  more  evident  when  cause he is kind but it's not
                                                                      chant-Ivory film, with Emma  you put it into teleplay form  very  well  sorted  through
                                                                      Thompson  and  Anthony  than it is when you're read-      where  he  applies  his  kind-
                                                                      Hopkins  —  seeing  his  2001  ing  it.  It's  really  kind  of  an  ness.  But  I  often  feel  crimi-
                                                                      play  "Lobby  Hero"  revived  amazing  structure.  And  it  nally  muddled  myself,  so
                                                                      on Broadway and whether  has a great feeling of kind-     maybe that's why I sympa-
                                                                      the  #MeToo  movement  ness  and  humanity  to  it.  thize with him.
                                                                      has been fair to "Manches-   Some of it's a bit schematic  AP:  You  wrote  a  letter  to
                                                                      ter" star Casey Affleck.     and  some  of  the  charac-  the  college  paper  of  your
                                                                      AP:  Had  you  been  tempt-  ters are better drawn than  alma mater, Wesleyan Uni-
                                                                      ed by television for a while?  others,  but  as  you're  work-  versity,  defending  Affleck
                                                                      Was it inevitable that you'd  ing  through  your  teleplay  who in 2010 settled two civil
                                                                      try it?                      looking  for  material  to  suits  of  sexual  harassment.
                                                                      Lonergan:  Probably.  For  a  plumb,  you  just  find  more  You wrote "an allegation is
                                                                      long  time  before  I  started  and more.                 not an indictment" and la-
                                                                      screenwriting,  I  never  had  AP:  That  compassion  and  mented  "unsubstantiated
                                                                      an idea for a movie. Once  wit  make  it  a  good  fit  for  details"   becoming   pre-
                                                                      I  finally  had  one,  more  you.  I  imagine  you're  un-  sumed  facts.  Do  you  think
                                                                      came. It wasn't that I didn't  likely to write anything that  Affleck, who withdrew from
                                                                      want to write for the mov-   doesn't  include  some  hu-  presenting  at  last  month's
                                                                      ies. I just always thought in  mor.                       Oscars,  has  been  treated
                                                                      terms  of  plays.  Since  then,  Lonergan: Yeah, you have  fairly?
                                                                      I've  been  thinking  in  terms  to be really good to get by  Lonergan: I think he's been
                                                                      of  plays  and  movies,  and  without  any  humor.  It's  al-  treated  terribly  and  I  wish
                                                                      now,  possibly,  I'll  think  in  most impossible.        I  had  written  that  letter
                                                                      terms of plays, movies and  AP: Did the movie of "How-    to  everybody,  not  just  to
                                                                      television.                  ards End" intimidate you at  my  college  paper.  I  didn't
                                                                      AP:  Was  Forster's  book  all?                           even  quite  realize  who  I
                                                                      meaningful to you?           Lonergan:  Not  so  much.  was writing it to. I think he's
                                                                      Lonergan: No, it wasn't, ac-  I  had  only  seen  the  film  being treated abominably.
                                                                      tually. I had tried to read it  once. I liked it but it wasn't a  It's  not  a  model  everyone
                                                                      earlier in life and not been  film that loomed large in my  should be looking to follow,
                                                                      engaged by it. But I read it  life. "A Room With a View" is  no matter what the reason
                                                                      when they offered me the  a  film  that  I've  seen  many  or  what  the  greater  good
                                                                      assignment  and  it's  some-  times  and  that  I  love.  The  may be. q
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