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Politics, Law & Religion      David Lammy
                                                          INTERVIEW











                       He’s never far away from a headline, whether it’s about knife crime, the Grenfell
                     tragedy or Windrush. Adenike Adenitire talks to the long-serving Labour MP about
                       his career and asks that if Britain ever has a black Prime Minister, will it be him?



                       he bio on his Twitter page reads:   are stripped of the rights that they’ve   responsibility – that’s how the system
                       “‘Surrenderer’, ‘collaborator’   earned over many years and denied   works when you are a Minister. You
                  Tand ‘colluder’. Former Minister   pensions, healthcare and sent back to   have your rows in private and in
                  (Higher Education, Culture, Justice,   the Caribbean, to countries they left   public you hold the party line. I’ve
                  Health) now on the backbenches   when they were babies, in the Windrush   got colleagues like Dawn Butler and
                  telling it like it is”, and there is probably   scandal. I am also an MP at a time when   Diane Abbott who are part of the
                  no more apt way to encapsulate what   72 people die in a preventable fire in   Labour shadow frontbench and
                  David Lammy represents right now in   Grenfell Tower, including a dear friend   therefore part of putting forward
                  British politics.               of mine, Kadjiah Saye, who died at   whatever the position is of the
                   Over the past few years the MP   the age of 24. So, clearly that requires   Labour Party. Now, broadly I
                  for Tottenham since 2002, the same   pretty robust representation.   agree you must do that, but
                  borough in which he grew up, has   I also think that a lot of people who   as a backbencher I have
                  continued to keep his foot on the necks   follow the work that I do and cheer me   complete freedom to tell it
                  (verbally and through his infamous   on, recognise and appreciate some of   as it is. I’m not hampered
                  power-charged tweets) of anyone   the positions I’ve struck in this Brexit   by a particular line that
                  standing in the way of social justice,   environment, an environment in which   I have to take for the
                  particularly in areas likely to affect   there’s rising hate for people of colour   party, or on behalf
                  his constituents. Knife and gun crime,   and where part of the rhetoric around   of colleagues.
                  the lack of black faces at Oxbridge,   leaving the European Union is about
                  the Grenfell Tower fire tragedy, the                            In the 32 years
                  Windrush scandal, the ‘white saviours’                          since the
                  of Comic Relief and of course, the utter                        first black
                  mess otherwise known as Brexit, are                             MPs entered
                  just some of the issues he has spoken                           Parliament in
                  out about.                                                      1987, only about
                   It could be argued that this wasn’t   “I am visible and I      three black MPs
                  always the case – that David Lammy   am subject to death        have been part
                  MP wasn’t always at the forefront                               of a ruling Cabinet
                  of “telling it like it is”, and this is   threats on a daily    in some way, and only
                  something we put to the son of            basis”                one in a key decision-making
                  Jamaican parents and former barrister.                          role. Meanwhile, in recent
                  We also speak to him about being                                years we’ve seen two Asian
                  Britain’s first black Prime Minister,   a fear of the ‘other’ and xenophobic   Home Secretaries, an Asian
                  whether black MPs have any power in   intent. All of that means that the job I do   Chancellor and an Asian
                  Parliament and what he considers to   is hugely important. I have very strong   Mayor of London… What
                  be the proudest moment of his career.  enemies in public life. Farage, Rees-  are your thoughts on the
                                                  Mogg and people like Tony Robinson.   progression of black MPs
                  What was it that shifted in your career   I am visible and I am subject to death   in Parliament?
                  that prompted you to become the   threats and racist abuse on a daily basis.   All I can say is that I
                  unapologetically and extremely vocal   So I think that’s why people notice what   am proud of what I’ve
                  David Lammy we see today?       I’m up to. I don’t think it’s anything to   been able to do for
                  There is no premeditated shift. I’m   do with me changing, it’s to do with the   constituents who
                  the same David Lammy I’ve been for   times that we’re in.       have had problems
                  the past 20 years in politics. But, I am                        and issues. Not all
                  representing the people of Tottenham   Do you feel now as a backbencher   those issues always
                  and a broader community of people   that you have freedom to speak more   make the news, but
                  like them, who identify with me at a   openly and freely than you did when   I’m proud that I’ve
                  time of Donald Trump, Nigel Farage   you were part of the Government or   been able to shift the
                  Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson.   shadow government?         debates on the criminal justice
                  I am representing people at a time   By necessity, if you are part of a   system in our country. I was very
                  when people of Caribbean descent   Government you sign up to collective   critical in the hours after Grenfell



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